Brawl Tier List Discussion

spiff-ssbb · 07-25-2008, 10:42 PM

^ d throw chain grabs... disjointed F smash. if used correctly he can own... its tough to get in on him with the reflector and lasers

Dorkfish · 07-25-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by spiff-ssbb

oh i didn't read this part lol did you edit it in?

running U smash is quick yes but i've been punished 1 too many times by meta's that just out prioritize it.

U air is one of the best but SO hard to combo into... you gotta like SUPER metagame them into it... like catch them out of an air dodge

oh and rather than b air... just turn around and F air them haha other than that spot on sir spot on

For Uair, thats when I normally strike, right after they air dodge.

If I do manage to get a guy to 180 without KOing him, I'd rather use the super fast Bair instead of an Fair with some iffy startup lag.

spiff-ssbb · 07-25-2008, 10:43 PM

^ ah this is true. i was more talking about killing him earlier.

Dorkfish · 07-25-2008, 10:47 PM

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I've yet to see a really good Falco besides Bombsoldier. Can someone explain why he's so high?

Awesome chaingrab, Great projectiles, great killing power, has a few mini-combos (more than most characters...)

Also, Sethlon.

Twilight Hero · 07-25-2008, 11:02 PM

I see. I should really start using him more.

Marth101 · 07-25-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dorkfish

Awesome chaingrab, Great projectiles, great killing power, has a few mini-combos (more than most characters...)

Also, Sethlon.

This are the 2 reasons why, I started to use him more often.

And btw, yeah Bombsoldier and Sethion are the best Falco players right now, but both of them have different playing styles.

ZEROLAZAR · 07-26-2008, 12:18 AM

I'm a pretty good Falco, but I recently picked up Fox too.

Wolf sucks complete ass in comparison to both of them. Wolf is actually WEAKER than both of them, and he can't combo nearly as well..

Falco has alot of tricks up his sleeve, like a backwards short hop laser right before you hit the ground, and since laser gives no landing lag, you can follow up with a grab or a running up smash (or a dash-smash haha). The chaingrab all the way to the edge with the spike is complete rape, though. His neutral aerial and Utilt can be spammed to rack up damage.

Who wants to play, right now? :P

ZEROLAZAR · 07-26-2008, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Hero

Hey guys, this is a tier list Chillin made with a few friends. He claims it's truly accurate based on tourneys and such.

July 2008

God Tier
Metaknight

Top Tier
Snake - Should be God Tier.
King Dedede - Should be Upper Tier
Falco

Upper Tier
Mr. Game&Watch
Marth
R.O.B. - Should be Top Tier.

High Tier
Kirby
Pit
Wario
Donkey Kong
Lucario
Ice Climbers - BROKEN Tier.
Wolf - Should be Mid Tier. (Not nearly as good as Falco or Fox)
Peach - Should be Mid Tier. (Lack of KO options)

Mid Tier
Olimar - Should be High Tier.
Luigi
Diddy Kong - Should be High Tier.
Zero Suit Samus
Zelda
Ike
Pikachu
Fox - Should be High Tier.
Toon Link

Low Tier
Samus
Ness
Bowser
Sheik
Lucas - Should be Mid Tier at least.
Mario
Ganondorf
Pokemon Trainer - Should be Mid Tier.
Sonic

Bottom Tier
Link - Should be Mid Tier.
Yoshi - Should be Low Tier.
Jigglypuff
Captain Falcon

My opinions are marked in Bold and explained to the right.

rmag37 · 07-26-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Hero

I see. I should really start using him more.

You want to use him now that you know hes good? Wow... shocking.

Twilight Hero · 07-26-2008, 01:09 AM

Yes. o_o Is there a problem here?

ZEROLAZAR · 07-26-2008, 01:18 AM

Doesn't let the lower tier characters develop their Metagame.. lmfao.

Twilight Hero · 07-26-2008, 01:49 AM

lmao well you all know I used Ness.

ZEROLAZAR · 07-26-2008, 01:58 AM

You shouldn't stop because of his tier rank, you were great with him.

Twilight Hero · 07-26-2008, 02:08 AM

Oh I meant to say "use" not "used". XD

ZEROLAZAR · 07-26-2008, 02:11 AM

Oh. Lmfao.

I use Ganon, alot.

Twilight Hero · 07-26-2008, 02:50 AM

Yeah, Ganon has power for days.

ZEROLAZAR · 07-26-2008, 03:35 AM

With the double stutter step he's insane.

rmag37 · 07-26-2008, 03:49 AM

I should learn this "Double Stutter Step" you speak very highly of it. Also I just discovered Shieks "Chain Jacket" and oh my god... I could have alot of fun with that technique. MWAHAHA!

ZEROLAZAR · 07-26-2008, 03:53 AM

What the hell is the chain jacket? :P

The double stutter step doesn't work for every character (I -think-.. I haven't tested it extensively), but for Ganondorf it at least doubles the range of his forward smash, if you time it properly. It's pretty easy to pull off, but harder to memorize and use in a fight.

You know to use Ganon's Fsmash tilted Down, right? It KOs at a much lower percentage because it sends them much more horizontal.