Now don't get on me about how tires don exits (oh yeah i dared to go there), because they do. They were in SSB, SSBM, are most definitely in Brawl. I can't make it on my own, though. Smashers, discuss the possible tiers here!

Im not writing up MY full tier list till laters, will make a top 5 soon though.

Reserved Typing wanna be second lol

OK I haven't played extensively with all of the characters but here's my opinion I think I put to many characters in the high tier list but the characters just seem really balanced this time around.
Top
Lucas
Luigi
MetaKnight High priority
Here's the surprise Pikachu
Wolf?
High
Diddy
Ness- Might be top tier material but Lucas is clearly better
Toon Link
Pit Overrated IMO
Marth? haven't played with him really
Lucario
Jigglypuff, I don't play it but I know a lot of good players use this guy
Falco
Game & Watch?
ZSS/Samus
Zelda/Shiek
Olimar-yeah i forgot about this guy, Some of his ariels are pretty good and his smashes are unique b/c of the range
Middle
Ice Climbers? Probably should be higher just b/c a lot of good players use him too, but to rely on the AI like that seems weak.
Wario? he seems better than middle, i'm not sure where to put him
Ike-His slow attacks will hinder him in 1 on 1's i think
PT
Mario
Bowser
Fox-Nerfed
Yoshi-More capable than people assume
Low
Link
Sonic no priority
Captain Falcon
Gannondorf-Maybe a little better I just hate this guy lol
DK never too great in Smash

you forgot olimar,

OKAY EVERYBODY!!! Hey, LISTEN!!! Yeah you mushroomedmario i see what you are doing back there.

TIERS~TOP-HIGH-MEDIUMHIGH-MEDIUMLOW-LOW-BOTTOM

Due to the larger roster of characters the MEDIUM Tier had to be broken up into two seperate tiers to better define the characters.

DISCUSSION #1~Finding base grading criteria to rate characters. NOTE: THE GRADES OF THE CHARACTER DOES NOT DIRECTLY SYMBOLIZE HIS OR HER POSITION ON THE TIER LIST.

why is luigi top tier, i'm not saying he dosn't deserve it, i just want to know why you think so....

Well Luigi is a character I'm not too familiar with, in fact I started playing with him just recently. I think he is to tier b/c his he has very good balance. He has plenty of kill moves, high priority, a decent recovery and a pretty good FS. Also his side B doesn't gimp his jumps.
I don't think my tier list is too accurate, it's just what I feel at this moment, you know what i'm saying. Lol I've changed my mains like 3 times.

my very top chars would have to be:

zelda
fox
link/toon link
snake - takes a while to get used to, but he's powerful

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below that:

meta knight
wolf
pikachu
samus
sonic

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where did everyone else go? who cares i suck with em =]

yeah i feel the exact same way, i keep changing mains...usually from mario to lucario to olimar to mario again lol (with some pit and lucas thrown in there)

if i were to make a tier list, it would change on a regular basis


i would say pit's pretty bad, as opposed to whatother people say

just because his recovery is decently useless, especially against people with projectiles

my top 5 for tier list would be

metaknight
toon link
lucas
lucario
olimar

might seem completely random, just how i feel

They always are. Players will always find ways to get around the popular characters, usually at least. Tiers are fluctuating all the time in almost every game that involves them, SSBB is no exception

my top 5 would be

wolf
king dedede
diddy kong
ZS-samus
zelda/shiek

dedede has lots of range for a slow guy. diddy kong is alot like wolf having small combos and decent killing moves. i havent really seen any decent samus players but if some people can use that stun well w/her combos shes gonna be raping people. zelda/shiek has so many options.

I actually mean this to be an actual discussion about: Making a Wiichat tier list, what the actual Tier Lists will most likely be like, and grading characters. Im not looking for your own Tier List, im looking for discussion on making one. Posting a top 5 is cool, but a full on Tier List is not necessary.

well metaknight, wolf and toon link generally seem to be good

(from what is mentioned in this thread)

youll never get a half accurate one. hahaha as much as i could want one i dunno how much i would trust it without some tourneys to back it up. hopefully those tourneys could be char balanced instead of seeing 20 ikes and 20 pits. hahaha

Sigh

Dorkfishes top 5

5. Toon Link
4. Ike
3. Sheik
2. Pit
1. Marth


This my 2c i guess.