who is the best swordsmen in ssbb?

SSBfreakCK · 09-19-2009, 10:48 PM

I forgot to mention something important... I'm off today.

Final Smashes are irregular moves that can't be accessed at will, and in competitive matches, are never used. Final Smashes in no way relate to how good a character is; Wolf's FS is possibly the best in the game, but he's middle tier. Meta is the best in the game, but his FS is only average. Sheik is low tier, but her FS is devastating (although yes, Zelda is high tier; but not top!).

Note that since Ike has a downside, he's not the best. >.>

And for sake of mention, Ike's FS is actually only slightly above average. The knockback isn't as good as other instant FS' like Zelda's or Captain Falcon's, and the damage isn't that good. It's saving grace is it's priority, range, and ability to pick off multiple foes.

KlonoaCat · 09-19-2009, 11:40 PM

i still say meta knight is da best overall unless sonic had a sword den he would be da best swordsman

GCommander · 09-20-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SSBfreakCK

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Originally Posted by Candyman

1)Link

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Isn't Link at the bottom of the tier list, now? He's one of the worst characters in the game, if not the worst. I don't need a statement to support this, it's common knowledge among pros. =P

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Originally Posted by GCommander

Obviously is Marth.
Marth is ONLY character that only uses his sword in every move (except grabs).
You may say that Toon Link uses his sword too but he also uses projectiles.
Metaknight might be the best character with a sword but not the best swordmaster

You meant that as in, Meta's the best character, but you like Marth better, right? Otherwise you sort of contradicted yourself.

No dummy, I mean that Marth is the best swordmaster because he only uses his sword to fight. And you know that I like Ike better than any of the other swordsmen but he's just not the best. He's by far the strongest but not the best.

kingslayer · 09-21-2009, 12:07 AM

First off... shame on you CK... forgetting something about your own main. Meta Knight has more than 3 ways to recover. UP B, Neutral B, Side B, and.... Down B. It can be done, but it's tricky. Also, I kind of just skimmed yet I didn't see you mention his glide. I think you probably did though.
Now who's the best swordsmen... it has to be Marth of course. Now some people will be like... WHAT?!?!?!!? META KNIGHT EATS BABIES!!! HE'S THAT GOOD. I know, I know... Meta Knight is crazily good. The problem is this thread is to determine who's the best swords"man" and well... I'm not really sure what Meta Knight is. I don't really think his race even has genders. I always assumed Kirby was a dude... but he never confirms it now does he? Meta Knight has a rough voice but who knows... maybe Meta Knight likes to smoke.
Ike is good, but not PRO good. Of course some people can use him in the PRO league level... but they don't really win the big tournies now do they? Marths (like MikeHAZE) do however. So... Marth is the only choice. Though I'll have to say Toon Link if it turns out the Marth actually is a women... I've always had my suspicions.
Now, I'm sure someone is going to try and prove that Meta Knight is a dude... but even though he looks like a giant ball... it could just as well be a giant ovary.

Shadow*91 · 09-21-2009, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kingslayer

First off... shame on you CK... forgetting something about your own main. Meta Knight has more than 3 ways to recover. UP B, Neutral B, Side B, and.... Down B. It can be done, but it's tricky. Also, I kind of just skimmed yet I didn't see you mention his glide. I think you probably did though.
Now who's the best swordsmen... it has to be Marth of course. Now some people will be like... WHAT?!?!?!!? META KNIGHT EATS BABIES!!! HE'S THAT GOOD. I know, I know... Meta Knight is crazily good. The problem is this thread is to determine who's the best swords"man" and well... I'm not really sure what Meta Knight is. I don't really think his race even has genders. I always assumed Kirby was a dude... but he never confirms it now does he? Meta Knight has a rough voice but who knows... maybe Meta Knight likes to smoke.
Ike is good, but not PRO good. Of course some people can use him in the PRO league level... but they don't really win the big tournies now do they? Marths (like MikeHAZE) do however. So... Marth is the only choice. Though I'll have to say Toon Link if it turns out the Marth actually is a women... I've always had my suspicions.
Now, I'm sure someone is going to try and prove that Meta Knight is a dude... but even though he looks like a giant ball... it could just as well be a giant ovary.

lol

sadly your entire arguemant will be shattered by what comes after this:

Swordsman is the generic term for one that wields a sword for thier main(if not only) weapon. Whether the person is a he, she or even an it the term would still be swordsman. Plural is swordsmen. Even if the group is nothing but women with swords, they would still be refered to as swordsmen.

sorry but i just shattered your whole arguement.

kingslayer · 09-21-2009, 09:15 PM

Sigh... I was hoping no one knew that. I wanted a litte bit of fun ;P. Anyway, now that my fun was ruined *cough* Shadow *cough* I guess I'll go with the obvious. Meta Knight is the best... NO QUESTION ABOUT IT!

BoZ94 · 09-21-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kingslayer

Sigh... I was hoping no one knew that. I wanted a litte bit of fun ;P. Anyway, now that my fun was ruined *cough* Shadow *cough* I guess I'll go with the obvious. Meta Knight is the best... NO QUESTION ABOUT IT!

I have a question about it. :P

palermo716 · 09-23-2009, 10:29 AM

Toon Link Still Allll The WAY

DarkAce · 09-23-2009, 10:04 PM

I think Marth is a good swordsman because of he's awsome counter attacks and he's one hit KO super smash.

SMASH KING · 09-23-2009, 10:13 PM

uhhh... :/

DG~X · 09-24-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkAce

I think Marth is a good swordsman because of he's awsome counter attacks and he's one hit KO super smash.

Ike is basicly what you said about marth.

Shadow*91 · 09-24-2009, 02:57 AM

Ike's Final Smash isn't always a 1-hit KO. plus Ike is way to slow to really combo well.

this discussion is really just between Meta, Toon and Marth cause they're the only ones that are high/top teir

palermo716 · 09-24-2009, 10:20 AM

i will say again tooooonnn link alll the way

DG~X · 09-24-2009, 10:37 AM

You said that a lot of times already...We get it.

Ill go with mk for the simple reason that i get my but whooped when people use him.

palermo716 · 09-24-2009, 12:34 PM

sorry lols, any way most people that use mk just saying just press bunch of buutons and b/c of mk's great speed/agility makes him beast

Shadow*91 · 09-24-2009, 02:15 PM

those are the noob Meta's a real Meta uses combos that usually involve chaining you right off the field and then gimping you. you see noob Meta's on basic brawl all the time but for a good Meta, you should see CK

palermo716 · 09-24-2009, 02:43 PM

ok ck alittle meta vers toon link
heres are picccc

Shadow*91 · 09-24-2009, 05:44 PM

trust me on this, CK is probably the best brawler on Wiichat and few can beat him when he goes all out. that pic is wgat your thinking but i doubt it'll be that epic. it'll probably be you get a couple good combos then CK just decides to get serious and slaughter you. its how everybody seems to fare against his Meta

GCommander · 09-24-2009, 06:02 PM

^I have beaten CK before but he is good

Shadow*91 · 09-24-2009, 06:16 PM

ever beat his Meta when he was going all out?
cause i've beaten him before myself(despite how hard it was) but what i was saying is his Meta is pratically invincable

09-19-2009, 11:40 PM	#42
KlonoaCat Dream Traveler Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: im in your dreams Posts: 52 Friends: 35 2716-5057-5920-6156	i still say meta knight is da best overall unless sonic had a sword den he would be da best swordsman __________________ Wii: 2716-5057-5920-6156 Brawl: 2149-2683-1451 Mario Kart: 3609-6063-9164 I am Klonoa, here me meow

09-21-2009, 12:07 AM	#44
kingslayer The Grammar Police Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 565 Friends: 12 1345-6587-5984-5125	First off... shame on you CK... forgetting something about your own main. Meta Knight has more than 3 ways to recover. UP B, Neutral B, Side B, and.... Down B. It can be done, but it's tricky. Also, I kind of just skimmed yet I didn't see you mention his glide. I think you probably did though. Now who's the best swordsmen... it has to be Marth of course. Now some people will be like... WHAT?!?!?!!? META KNIGHT EATS BABIES!!! HE'S THAT GOOD. I know, I know... Meta Knight is crazily good. The problem is this thread is to determine who's the best swords"man" and well... I'm not really sure what Meta Knight is. I don't really think his race even has genders. I always assumed Kirby was a dude... but he never confirms it now does he? Meta Knight has a rough voice but who knows... maybe Meta Knight likes to smoke. Ike is good, but not PRO good. Of course some people can use him in the PRO league level... but they don't really win the big tournies now do they? Marths (like MikeHAZE) do however. So... Marth is the only choice. Though I'll have to say Toon Link if it turns out the Marth actually is a women... I've always had my suspicions. Now, I'm sure someone is going to try and prove that Meta Knight is a dude... but even though he looks like a giant ball... it could just as well be a giant ovary. __________________ Member of The CKingz. Last edited by kingslayer; 09-21-2009 at 12:11 AM.

09-21-2009, 09:15 PM	#46
kingslayer The Grammar Police Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 565 Friends: 12 1345-6587-5984-5125	Sigh... I was hoping no one knew that. I wanted a litte bit of fun ;P. Anyway, now that my fun was ruined cough Shadow cough I guess I'll go with the obvious. Meta Knight is the best... NO QUESTION ABOUT IT! __________________ Member of The CKingz.

09-23-2009, 10:29 AM	#48
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09-23-2009, 10:04 PM	#49
DarkAce American Drummer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: CA Posts: 10 Friends: 0 4567-8910-1112-1314	I think Marth is a good swordsman because of he's awsome counter attacks and he's one hit KO super smash.

09-24-2009, 02:57 AM	#52
Shadow*91 OMG! I RULE! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sitting by a Gamecube playing some Melee Posts: 1,401 Friends: 46 0000-0000-0000-0000 Blog Entries: 3	Ike's Final Smash isn't always a 1-hit KO. plus Ike is way to slow to really combo well. this discussion is really just between Meta, Toon and Marth cause they're the only ones that are high/top teir __________________ Signatures were made by me. Click here to see others I've made. They say 'Knowledge is Power' They say 'Power Corrupts' So I say: Study hard, be EVIL! Wiichat's biggest Call of Duty HATER! Wii is busted so please don't ask me for codes. I wouldn't add you anyway.

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palermo716 (TA) Jr.M0DERATOR Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Jersey and Smashville Posts: 92 Friends: 17 2337-7629-6016-6750	i will say again tooooonnn link alll the way __________________ Click here to level up my license![/URL] PM me For FC's Spoiler Alert!

09-24-2009, 10:37 AM	#54
DG~X Dont read this or i die.. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: I live next door.But to who is the question. Posts: 725 Friends: 103 1923-6615-4080-7852 Blog Entries: 1	You said that a lot of times already...We get it. Ill go with mk for the simple reason that i get my but whooped when people use him. __________________

09-24-2009, 12:34 PM	#55
palermo716 (TA) Jr.M0DERATOR Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Jersey and Smashville Posts: 92 Friends: 17 2337-7629-6016-6750	sorry lols, any way most people that use mk just saying just press bunch of buutons and b/c of mk's great speed/agility makes him beast __________________ Click here to level up my license![/URL] PM me For FC's Spoiler Alert!

09-24-2009, 02:15 PM	#56
Shadow*91 OMG! I RULE! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sitting by a Gamecube playing some Melee Posts: 1,401 Friends: 46 0000-0000-0000-0000 Blog Entries: 3	those are the noob Meta's a real Meta uses combos that usually involve chaining you right off the field and then gimping you. you see noob Meta's on basic brawl all the time but for a good Meta, you should see CK __________________ Signatures were made by me. Click here to see others I've made. They say 'Knowledge is Power' They say 'Power Corrupts' So I say: Study hard, be EVIL! Wiichat's biggest Call of Duty HATER! Wii is busted so please don't ask me for codes. I wouldn't add you anyway.

09-24-2009, 02:43 PM	#57
palermo716 (TA) Jr.M0DERATOR Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Jersey and Smashville Posts: 92 Friends: 17 2337-7629-6016-6750	ok ck alittle meta vers toon link heres are picccc __________________ Click here to level up my license![/URL] PM me For FC's Spoiler Alert! Last edited by palermo716; 09-24-2009 at 03:07 PM.

09-24-2009, 05:44 PM	#58
Shadow*91 OMG! I RULE! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sitting by a Gamecube playing some Melee Posts: 1,401 Friends: 46 0000-0000-0000-0000 Blog Entries: 3	trust me on this, CK is probably the best brawler on Wiichat and few can beat him when he goes all out. that pic is wgat your thinking but i doubt it'll be that epic. it'll probably be you get a couple good combos then CK just decides to get serious and slaughter you. its how everybody seems to fare against his Meta __________________ Signatures were made by me. Click here to see others I've made. They say 'Knowledge is Power' They say 'Power Corrupts' So I say: Study hard, be EVIL! Wiichat's biggest Call of Duty HATER! Wii is busted so please don't ask me for codes. I wouldn't add you anyway.

09-24-2009, 06:02 PM	#59
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09-24-2009, 06:16 PM	#60
Shadow*91 OMG! I RULE! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sitting by a Gamecube playing some Melee Posts: 1,401 Friends: 46 0000-0000-0000-0000 Blog Entries: 3	ever beat his Meta when he was going all out? cause i've beaten him before myself(despite how hard it was) but what i was saying is his Meta is pratically invincable __________________ Signatures were made by me. Click here to see others I've made. They say 'Knowledge is Power' They say 'Power Corrupts' So I say: Study hard, be EVIL! Wiichat's biggest Call of Duty HATER! Wii is busted so please don't ask me for codes. I wouldn't add you anyway.

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