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Old 03-03-2008, 12:12 AM  
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Walt, dead or alive? Did Locke see him, or was it the island?
Locke seeing Walt could have had something to do with the time travel. Walt seemed quite a bit older from what I remember, so the island could have jumped forward in time or something.
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Like Marioman said there are shi* loads of illusions on the island, Jacks father for one. (lol I just thought of that as I was reading and I wanted to say it.)
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Here are some good examples...In season 2, Kate saw a black horse, this doesn't mean that the horse was alive but shows that the Illusions can be other than human. Second, Hurley saw his imaginary friend, the one that lost the slipper. He was neither dead nor leaving so how do you explain that? Lastly, and most importantly, Shanon (right before she died) saw a vision of Walt, he was all wet too for some odd reason...but anyway we learn form later on in the season walt is not dead. There's your proof right there.
Well that really doesnt prove your point or prove mine. Who know it is probably everyone hilusinating{not sure how to spell} iimagine things. like isaid earlier everyone is going crazy ex.jack.
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Sorry but the last one does prove my point...Shanon saw Walt...which was not actually Walt...it was an Illusion...we find later that Walt is still alive...proving my point
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Sorry but the last one does prove my point...Shanon saw Walt...which was not actually Walt...it was an Illusion...we find later that Walt is still alive...proving my point
Okay this is pointless so It could be the island playing tricks on the surviver but it could also be the people hallucinating or them seeing mirages. We will just have to wait and see whats up.
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Does anyone ever think that the producers of lost just make up things as they go? Who would of everr thought that they planned to have a guy travelling to the future and past or how people that travel to and from the island start to just between the past and future.

I dont think they thought about that all the way back in season one
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Does anyone ever think that the producers of lost just make up things as they go? Who would of everr thought that they planned to have a guy travelling to the future and past or how people that travel to and from the island start to just between the past and future.

I dont think they thought about that all the way back in season one

Don't be so sure. They said from the start they have explanations for dealing with the actor playing Walt growing up - weird time changes would be about the only thing that would work.
They've also said that there will be an explanation of the two skeletons found in the caves way back in season 1 that will make you realize that they did have it all planned out all along.
Some minor things change here and there or get fleshed out a little different (for example Ben was not originally going to be the leader of the Others, but they liked the actor so much that they tweaked the story a bit), but they do claim have the overall story, with all the major plot points, all plotted out from the start. Obviously they can't prove that claim without spoiling the whole show, but once the show is all wrapped up, maybe they'll release their original story outline.
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Does anyone ever think that the producers of lost just make up things as they go? Who would of everr thought that they planned to have a guy travelling to the future and past or how people that travel to and from the island start to just between the past and future.

I dont think they thought about that all the way back in season one
They have said that they have had all of the important story elements planning when they started Season One. The character backstory episodes, however, were added in as fillers as they went on.
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I still dont think that they thought everything out. im not talking about the details of the story line but i think that they start somewhere and go from there.

Basic story line: A plane crashes over an island and there are people on the island that watch them. I cant remember the movie but there is another storyline in a movie like the one on lost.

Season 2: Then i think that they just make it that since the people are on the island, that they are there for a reason. That is why they make the Dharma Initiative. I think that is when they make the buildings and added their own survivor Desmond who landed on the island earlier. We still havent found out what Dharma is except that they wanted to research some babies and their mothers.


Season 3: This is where everything starts to get weird. You get all the info about how everyone is different on the island. Example: Sun&Jin can now make kids. Also i think they had a good prompt for making everyones past the same and making them all have bad pasts. Also we get the new idea that some of the survivors have pasts that are connected or they met eachother earlier in life but didnt know it. We also get this bizzare twist on the story saying that the plane Oceanic is at the bottom of the ocean and there were no survivors. We havent found out about what is up with that but we Still that is a big Part of the plot. I dont think they though about that in season one. O dont forget the last episode where you see two guys in Antartica or someplace watching for the island.

You would have to be extremely smart and cunning to think like this series is turning out to be.

Season 4(up to now): We are finding out all these strange events about Another company looking for the island. Then you have the time travel, which couldnt have been planned from season one. The flashes forward are something new to this season also.
I could keep going on and on because there are so many subplots to this series. I have never watched a show that has so many dead ends and promts for new story lines. But i guess that is why they call it lost.
I am guessing that the producers and writers make a basic story line and then make it up as they go changing it each season with only the next season to think about. If they end up creating a really good prompt by chance or purposly, they go with that. What ever happened to the story line about all the others and the baby thing or the island having healing powers. As far as i can see the island has bad vodo powers hurting people that leave it but good powers if they stay.

I am not saying i am right but my view is fitting to the story and could be right.
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Like your view...I agree with it in some parts. I did read, before Season 3 began...that the writters had been making (Oh...crap...) Nevermind that's Pirates of the Carabian Movies...the writters for those movies had made it up as it went along....It could be the case for Lost...but doubtful. I'm sure the writers have had an idea from Season 1 what the show was entirely about, know whether that idea has changed since then or not we don't know. But does an of this really matter anyway? Were talking about the show, doesn't really matter how the writters write, just as long as they keep doing a good job at it.
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The writers addressed this and said, they knew the WHOLE sotry before the show really took off anyway. these guys know what they're doin'.
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The writers addressed this and said, they knew the WHOLE sotry before the show really took off anyway. these guys know what they're doin'.
I would like to know where they said this
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Season 2: Then i think that they just make it that since the people are on the island, that they are there for a reason. That is why they make the Dharma Initiative. I think that is when they make the buildings and added their own survivor Desmond who landed on the island earlier. We still havent found out what Dharma is except that they wanted to research some babies and their mothers.

It's more than that though. Dharma was wiped out by the Others, who were apparently on the island before Dharma got there (or can at least come and go). Most of the Dharma stations were taken over by them. The research into babies appears to be related to the fact that women who conceive on the island die in childbirth. This doesn't seem to be their main purpose though.
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I would like to know where they said this
I remember reading this too...sorry man but it's true...shows too complicated to be made up as they go along
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It's more than that though. Dharma was wiped out by the Others, who were apparently on the island before Dharma got there (or can at least come and go). Most of the Dharma stations were taken over by them. The research into babies appears to be related to the fact that women who conceive on the island die in childbirth. This doesn't seem to be their main purpose though.
Im pretty sure that the others ran Dharma, but correct me if im wrong and Since when did the Others take over they were already in the stations when the survivors landed on the island.
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