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Old 04-12-2009, 11:59 PM   #21
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I do, however, feel like saying that Eazy just raps like everyone used to is a bad excuse for his bad rapping. If everyone just rapped like everyone else, where is the progression? What would make anyone stand out?
Eazy is a legend for being one of the first to be so blunt with NWA. He didn't even write the verses he is known for. Like I said, he was no rapper.
Eazy-E is one of the pioneers of "gangsta-rap," and even if he wasn't he still is a decent rapper. Not really sure as to how you can discredit him for his "bad rapping." Every rapper has his/her own style, and Eazy-E wasn't really known for his flow, but more for his unique voice. As for the fact that he didn't write his own verses, big deal, after all most rappers have ghostwriters; writing verses is not an easy task.

Well anyways, to keep this thread bumped, I'm going to have throw in some input on the current state of rap, which is definitely not a pretty sight. Rap really has fallen off, most significantly seen after the West Coast scene died in the aftermath of Tupac's death. Sure, there are still a few notable rappers in the West, such as Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, WC, and the Game, but the truth is that as the influence that the West once had in its heyday (the 90's) was lost, other areas of the USA have fought to claim and mold the broad genre of rap. After the West pretty much fell off we saw the rise of Dre and his protege, Eminem, who represented the North (Detriot), as well as 50 Cent, who hails from New York. Then with the rise of Aftermath and G-Unit, rap was more heading into the mainstream with rap artists that want to pretty much jump into the industry to make money.

Pretty much with the end of "gangsta" age of rap, the world of rap has been slowly deterioating into the "hip-pop" scene that we all know (and hate, at least for the real rap advocates). For instance, compare present day "rappers" such as Lil Wayne, T-Pain, Soulja Boy, Mims, Hurricane Chris, and of course cry-baby Kanye West. Then again, there are some rappers out there trying to keep with the old, but are still adding too much of a "pop-ish" feel in their music, such as Lupe Fiasco and Jay-Z. Nonetheless, there are still many underground rappers who refuse to be or are not yet in the spotlight that still hold onto the true roots of rap.

However you look at it though, rap has evolved and whether you like it or not is completely up to you. I personally dabble in the rap scene every now and then to enjoy the success of rappers that are still keeping rap alive, like Dre, Eminem, Nas, and Ice Cube, but for the most part its very safe to assume that hip-hop, or rap is dead.
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To those who laugh at this thread: Is the narrow-mindedness really all that necessary?

Anyway, I find a lot of crap in its wake, but I still consider Rap/Hip-Hop as up there in my favorite music genres. Although I don't have any personal favorite artists, what I've recently heard from Lupe Fiasco, though, is quite good. Especially "Dumb It Down".
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I agree with Bananaboat. He did have a lot of strong points. Nowadays rap is considered hip hop. Radio stations play hip hop and R&B on the same stations. There are a few artists that do make a rap song once in a while like Lil Wayne (a milli) MIMS (move if you wanna) T.I. (dead and gone) Eminem (loose yourself). I think that rap is dying slowly

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T.I. is by far better than him.
JESUS CHRIST!!!!

Alright... I'm done with this thread.
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Hip hop is a lifestyle, not a music genre.
And don't ever dare to bring the words "Soulja Boy" into any thread about hip hop or rap even if it is your own creation.
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Hip hop is a lifestyle, not a music genre.

I think Mr. Fiasco would disagree with you.
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JESUS CHRIST!!!!

Alright... I'm done with this thread.
Why? Because you know that T.I. is much better than Tech N9ne?

"Hip Hop Saved My Life" is a great song.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bj2_ZmwCoU

I think Mr. Fiasco would disagree with you.
I don't think he did to be honest.
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I think they're laughing at you liking a Lil Wayne song.
I'm laughing at you liking Eazy E.

Seriously though, no offense, but it seems like you don't know much about rap.
The only rap I really listen to anymore is Tech N9ne. I feel like I've already heard everything else.
Yeah, I wasn't laughing at the Lil Wayne. Weezys aiiiiight I guess. Just putting Hip-hop with Rap and R&B is just instant fail.

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JESUS CHRIST!!!!

Alright... I'm done with this thread.
pahaha. yeah I was done with la first post

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Hip hop is a lifestyle, not a music genre.
And don't ever dare to bring the words "Soulja Boy" into any thread about hip hop or rap even if it is your own creation.
Winner of thread so far ^
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A lot of people consider Hip-Hop to be a certain genre. It doesn't really have a definite meaning which everyone agrees upon.
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What do you guys think of Lil Jon?
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My location? Do you mean that people in other countries think that rap music ain't good? In that case why the hell did they even post in this thread if they are going to be posting negative stuff and dizzing on what people like and who they listen too. The Boondocks is a good animation that may fit. I'm Hispanic too read my signature if you know Spanish.

I didn't like that song by whatever his name was. I didn't know what he said. I had to read the lyrics in order to understand what he said.

T.I. is by far better than him.
could have sworn u were canadian.oh well forgive me for my other post.>_>
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could have sworn u were canadian.oh well forgive me for my other post.>_>
Ha! Ha! Ha! Me Canadian. I'm Mexican but I live in the U.S. Envek you speak Spanish?
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What do you guys think of Lil Jon?
Same as I think of Soulja Boy.

He's just had one too many and someone made the mistake of handing him a microphone.
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Same as I think of Soulja Boy.

He's just had one too many and someone made the mistake of handing him a microphone.
What!? He's awsome and he has many great songs like "What you gonna do" "Snap your fingers" "Shake that monkey".

I don't know who you listen to but Lil Jon is a great singer.
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What do you guys think of Lil Jon?
I think he's a twat.
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I think he's a twat.
Why? Because of his catch phrases? Yeah! What! Ok!
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Why? Because of his catch phrases? Yeah! What! Ok!
No?
I just think hes a twat.
The same way I think Kurt Angle is a twat.
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