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    So do you think you have to be born with an aversion to drawing, or can you just force yourself to be good over a long enough period of time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brawny View Post
    So do you think you have to be born with an aversion to drawing, or can you just force yourself to be good over a long enough period of time?
    Obviously you have to be born with it as it mostly shows up in the family. Everyone will progress at everything naturally, it doesn't meant you're forcing yourself to be good at it. It's just what happens. Art is the most boring waiting game of your life for improvement though. I don't think you can force yourself. Otherwise, I would have forced myself to be good at singing or something.

    And that drawing you posted has very good lines. I like it, a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brawny View Post
    So do you think you have to be born with an aversion to drawing, or can you just force yourself to be good over a long enough period of time?
    I always figured I inherited it from my dad. He was a great artist back when he drew. He was one of those artist that could draw a person and make it look like a photo. He always tried to get me to draw more realistic things but I wound up being a cartoonist

    EDIT: @ Bio yeah I collected a few. IMO his best work was in the late 90s Knuckles the Echidna comics. And really it was a mix between that and the 90s Venom comics from Marvel that inspired me.
    Last edited by Bodine; 02-25-2009 at 08:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikoku Harakami View Post
    This is rather ironic, considering your 'Man in the Snow' piece looks more cartoony than it does real. I also remember that time we both talked on Windows Messenger, and you showed a lack of respect for those who do line art, such as: manga, cartoons, anime, etc, claiming them to be less skilled than a realistic artist. As well as those who do digital art such as drawing on the computer, calling them cheaters and claiming they couldn't recreate their work on a real canvas.

    Too bad you felt the need to type in caps to try and 'win' the argument against me, following with a "I still win". You really offended me, and it's hard to forget that.
    ...I offend people. That's life.

    And 'The man with the balloon' piece looks far from cartoon. Far from extremely unrealistic, like cartoon, thank you. I enjoy realistic things. I'm not the most talented artist in the world. I just do what I can, and most of the time I'm pleased. A lot of the time, I hate what I do, because it's not of the standard I wish it would be. So I'm not at all aspiring to be a cartoonist, or indeed produce pieces that unrealistic. I do the best I can.

    Oh, and yeah, I do type in caps.

    When it comes to Art 'Philosophy', I'm not one that's intrigued by 'this means this' or 'this means that'.
    Art is purely what you see, or hear in the case of music. As long as it's beautiful, aesthetically pleasing, or pleasant on the eye - whatever.

    I can't easily describe Art that I like. I can't describe kinds of Art that I like.

    By stating that I don't like cartoon, I'm talking really rather broadly. I mean most unrealistic things, most unreleastic characters etc.

    I do, however, enjoy some less realistic pieces. For example:



    Paul Corfield, I think is amazing. I love his work, yet it is somewhat unrealistic.
    There's always exceptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brawny View Post
    So do you think you have to be born with an aversion to drawing, or can you just force yourself to be good over a long enough period of time?
    It doesn't matter, really. People think that only because it's usually a considerably longer process if you aren't averted to it already (it's still very possible, though).

    What makes it difficult for the uninclined is that there is trouble wrapping around the brain that making Art might be only 20% about what you see and 80% what you know, when most would actually assume it's the reverse, being the seeing creatures we are. To make realistic shading on an apple isn't based on how well you see the apple in front of you, but how well you understand the behavior of shadows itself as they wrap around a form like that (the apple). It is this inclination to understanding how you need to execute something that gets your momentum going in Art. If you're artistically inclined, it only means you can get that momentum moving sooner. To really start understanding something, though, takes quite a bit of time and practice.

    This is why, like Sixty said, you can't force yourself to improve. There will naturally be times where you have to educate yourself, of course (which is forceful in itself), but executing what you learn won't look as polished as you'd like for a long while; it is through this where it cannot be forced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRMARIO View Post
    ...I offend people. That's life.

    And 'The man with the balloon' piece looks far from cartoon. Far from extremely unrealistic, like cartoon, thank you. I enjoy realistic things. I'm not the most talented artist in the world. I just do what I can, and most of the time I'm pleased. A lot of the time, I hate what I do, because it's not of the standard I wish it would be. So I'm not at all aspiring to be a cartoonist, or indeed produce pieces that unrealistic. I do the best I can.

    Oh, and yeah, I do type in caps.

    When it comes to Art 'Philosophy', I'm not one that's intrigued by 'this means this' or 'this means that'.
    Art is purely what you see, or hear in the case of music. As long as it's beautiful, aesthetically pleasing, or pleasant on the eye - whatever.

    I can't easily describe Art that I like. I can't describe kinds of Art that I like.

    By stating that I don't like cartoon, I'm talking really rather broadly. I mean most unrealistic things, most unreleastic characters etc.

    I do, however, enjoy some less realistic pieces. For example:



    Paul Corfield, I think is amazing. I love his work, yet it is somewhat unrealistic.
    There's always exceptions.
    I dunno it (The Man in the Snow) looked somewhat like a cartoon to me. Cartoon doesn't necessarily mean extreamly unrealistic.

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    ..man with the balloon.

    The man wasn't the focus. The man looked horrible. The rest was not unrealistic.

    And of course cartoon means unrealistic! I'd be fuggin' petrified if I saw a cartoon walking through town.

    Like I just said. I'm no famous artist. I do my friggin' best.

    Enoch was right.


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    But you make it sound like there can be absolutley no realism to anything cartoony. That as most of us know is not true. Well atleast I know.

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    That makes no sense.

    Enoch was right.


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    Thats because you see black and white. No shades of grey. To you realistic and cartoon are terms of what artwork is.

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