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    If you have a reference picture, it's better to always post your picture alongside it if your goal is to reproduce it.

    Anyway, that picture is beautiful. It is a REALLY challenging one, though, requiring advanced sense of what the light/shade is doing, facial perspective, hair physics, etc...so if you can't wrap your mind around it, don't feel bad.

    Currently there's a bunch of fundamental things going wrong in your picture that would cause you to end up with a completely new face if you kept going. To cover a major one, her face isn't drawn in the right perspective. The picture has her face slightly at an overhead view while yours is in a level view. A couple ways to correct this is to make her forehead taller and make the contour of her left side of her face more vertical. Also, her mouth need to be bigger. Make sure you pay attention to her lower lip; more of it is seen in this perspective. The nose is also wider at the base.

    For images like these at your skill level, I strongly suggest using the grid approach.
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    I've never really studied art (well, studied to a useful level, anyway), so this is all just down to me learning from experience. I'm no Leonardo Da Vinci, but I'm sure you'd agree that I certainly have a somewhat natural flare. I know I'd improve a lot, if I do decide to study it...but I shan't be.

    My point being.

    Grid approach?

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    I just read your post thoroughly, Bio, and you've got it spot on.

    Her forehead was much taller originally...I made the mistake of shortening it, as I felt it simply looked too long. I can try and put this back...

    First thing I thought this morning when I got up, and had a fresh look at the image, was the lips. I totally agree. I'm currently working on that. She looks like she's sucking a wasp, in my drawing.

    EDIT:

    I've roughly changed the size of the lips (obviously just an outline of where they should be), and I've made the forehead taller - and it already seems much better.

    Thanks so much for this, Bio. I owe you one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRMARIO View Post
    Grid approach?
    Yeah. It's used so that people who aren't skilled enough with drawing out of direct observation can make an accurate initial sketch.

    Basically, you would use a ruler to divide your paper and photo into a grid format, each with the same amount of squares, allowing you to render your picture with correct proportion. It's a little bit tedious to prepare, but the reward you get out of using it makes it worth doing for someone in your skill level.

    I wrote up a step-by-step version below (spoiler'd for length)...divided into four major steps.

    Spoiler Alert!
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    If you can put the cheeks a little higher, it will be fine. Not that I can do that good though.
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    I don't know what to make of the grid method..

    I mean, I was taught to do that as a child - and I'm more than sure I've progressed from then:P

    I'm happy tweaking proportions...it always seems to end up okay.
    So there were a few issues this time, I think I'll sort it as I go along..

    I think my biggest challenge is shading.


    I nabbed my mother's camera, here's a better image:

    Spoiler Alert!


    I'VE SUSSED WHAT I NEED TO DO TO THOSE HORRENDOUS EYES.
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    Much better, sir.

    There is slight overhead perspective now (like there should have been), her nose is beautifully rendered, and the lips are the right size. Now you're getting somewhere.

    Now you gotta deal with the heavy dark areas of the face to make the dark parts of the eyes look right.
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    Jaack. Why did you pick such a horrible picture to draw? No wonder those cheeks are impossible for you to do.

    I wondered how Ayumi was doing gathering dust. I'm not making much progress on her at all. :|



    Uh, yeah. The left side of the face isn't anywhere near finished. Hence why it appears lighter than the right. I still haven't touched her other eye. I attempted to, but it went wrong. Though I'm pretty happy with it. I don't want that much critique on it, however. I'm not a pencil artist.
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    Well I'm hardly going to choose an easy picture, now am I!?
    I want it to be more of a challenge, then anything:P The sort of challenge that makes you want to burn the thing.

    I'll post an updated image in a minute..

    And are you actually going to finish this Ayumi one?

    (Having said I like a challenge...I may actually try drawing Ayumi some time. The fact that she's almost always photoshopped to an inch of her life, would mean there'd be little shadow to actually bother with..)

    Update:
    Waiiting for the pigging image to upload.
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    Yeah, but she has bitchin' long hair.
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