"But really, Lizard is a shit enemy."Originally Posted by Cadbury
If you ever read the comic book or saw the animated series, you'd have seen that he only went on rampage when he first transformed. He still has function of his brain(Duh?), seeing as his alter ego is a scientist, The Lizard had an underground haven with limited technology he had stolen to conduct new experiments. He's not too phased by spiderman, he has a different agenda(like Sandman).
"And retro_joe, don't quite know whether you're agreeing or disagreeing with me, not that I care, but Carnage without Venom would be shit. Carnage is Venom's enemy."
Carnage is the spawn of the original Symbiote, not Venom. Thus why Carnage doesn't feel such Malice for Parker(The Symbiote remebers the qualities of the preivous host, thus why Spidermans spider-sense doesn't work with Venom).
Venom doesn't feel "Responsible" for Carnage, as stated, he lacks humanity. The reason he hates Carnage is because he's an impure halfbreed. In the comic, he calls Carnage "halfbreed" to taunt him into a bout. (Halfbreed: Symbiote fused with Human/Spiderman DNA).
"Carnage and spiderman don't have a beef. They have had numerous fights but Venom has always been there."
"Whoever is an enemy of the city, is an enemy of mine."
So technically, Carnage is an enemy of Spidermans. Regardless of what you think, he is still technically Spidermans enemy. Thus why Spiderman originally attempts to take down black cat, because she attempts to release her father from prison.(Enemy of the City)
Yes it's true, Venom and Spidey have worked together a couple times, most notably to take Carnage down. However, Sandman wasn't really an "Enemy of Spidermans", he only Robbed Banks(Enemy of the City), but Spiderman stopped him to keep the order. Only after his daughter dies Sandman becomes a true enemy of Spidermans, because he feels Spiderman interfering is what inevitably caused his daughter to die.
So, how is a raging killing machine(Carnage) not an enemy of Spidey's? "Hrm, he's not robbing a Bank.. I'll allow it." *Shoots webs off and swings around the city* (WTF?) NO.. plz get your facts straight. It's idiotic saying he's not an enemy of Spidermans.(Sorry, but its true)
"It's also highly unlikely he'll be in it because of Mr. Dick Head, otherwise known as Sam Raimi. He hates, sorry, HATES Venom."
Whether or not he "likes" Symbiotes shouldn't contribute, Venom & Carnage are the two biggest names in Spiderman series(IMHO), and the public is screaming for them. Carnage in a live action film would be PIMP.
"I'd put every single penny I own on there being no Carnage what so ever." You're going to be a very poor man...
"And finally, question for retor_joe, where did you get this from?"
Thats from the Storyline, fear it as its real information *Casts boogey powers*
It's true, storyline from comic. This is why it would be wise for The Lizard to be in the Carnage movie, as Curt Conners is the one that not only creates, but lets it loose.(When he transforms into the Lizard the first time, he destroys most of his lab)
Curtis Conners, Vietnam Veteran who had lost an arm fighting for his nation, became a scientist in hopes of helping not only his son but to regenerate his arm. Looking into various ways of being able to regenerate his arm, he first came across a Skink's regenerative capability of growing its tail back after losing it to escape an enemy. He put that research on hold when Peter First brought the Symbiote to his Lab, upon further inspection, he saw that it not only increased the feelings of the host, but also the physical capabilities.(Strength for example)
He experimented on the symbiote to see if it would increase the regenerative rate of a Skink. Conners managed to get his hands on Spidermans blood to increase the strength of the symbiote and to hopefully increase the possible regen rate. He added his own blood to it so he could hopefully put the suit on after he had tested the Lizard DNA upon himself. Once fused, he put the symbiote(now blood red) in protective casing so it wouldn't escape.
He then began further experimentation on the Lizard DNA project, after several days of research, he was sure it was ready for human testing, however(as usual) he didn't have a test subject, instead he injected himself with it. Seemingly successful, his arm grows back much to his delight, however the injection begins to transforms him into a giant humanoid Lizard, he then goes on rampage and destroys the lab. In his rage he destroys the casing the Red Symbiote was in, and the Lizard runs off before the symbiote could Bind with him. So it goes in search of a new host.
So even if The Lizard was a "Shit enemy", they couldn't have Carnage without him.
The Lizard does remember his scientist work, and steals technology from around the city to make his new Haven a laboratory, where he plans on making a cure.Originally Posted by Cpt.McCloud
If we want to see Venom again, they need the Scorpion to enter the picture as he becomes the new Venom in the comics. So i'd hope they have him in 4, so we can see Venom again in 5.
A Superhero Crossover movie would kick ass, personally i'd want to see X-Men & the Fantastic 4 take down Apocolypse or Galactus.