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    ^I never said that was acutally Walt...I said it was an Illusion...Walt would still be alive and either on the boat or somewhere else...how is syaing Locke saw an Illusion of Walt saying he is dead?

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    Well generally the you dont have an illusion of someone if they are alive. Take Charlie as an example, he was an illusion and was dead. When did you see an illusion of someone that was alive.?


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    ^I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all...why wouldn't you be able to have an Illusion about someone that's alive...think about it. There is no proof into that, It's just that most of the time that people have Illusions is because they are distressed about something on their mind which is usually a death of someone. That's why the illusion is usually a person, in my opinion of course, but you are going directly form opinion also by saying illusions can only be dead people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marioman
    ^I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all...why wouldn't you be able to have an Illusion about someone that's alive...think about it. There is no proof into that, It's just that most of the time that people have Illusions is because they are distressed about something on their mind which is usually a death of someone. That's why the illusion is usually a person, in my opinion of course, but you are going directly form opinion also by saying illusions can only be dead people
    How can you say i am going only by my opion i Gave you a good example a Fact so you cant say my thought are opinions because there is evidence to back me up

    When you think of one Illusion on the island that someone has had and that person is still alive then you come talk


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    TransAm...you need to watch somma these episodes over again. and I think walt was the black smoke...and the reason so many people think its michael is because we know hes comin back next season

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    Okay first of all...

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


    Daniel said that you can't change the future from the past. BUT in the past (the first past) Daniel had no idea who he was until he got to the island. But in the second "past" Desmond visited him and his future journal changed. (The journal he had on the island, in the first past Daniel didn't have a page in his Journal saying. IN CASE OF EMERGENCY USE DESMOND HUE AS MY CONSTANT. BUT once Desmond visited Daniel in 1996 the Journal had a new page in it, a page saying: IN CASE OF EMERGENCY USE DESMOND HUE AS MY CONSTANT.

    Second: Desmond experienced something kinda like shock, and in order for him to stay grounded he needed something, some tiny thing to keep him in the Present. He needed Penny (something familiar to him, something he knew from his past to tell him what was real and what was this past he fabricated).

    Thirdly: Was it just me or did Desmonds "past" seem more a dream than what really happened? If it was a dream then how did Daniels Journal change?

    Forth Point: Hurley was addicted to gambling, he would gamble every lottery.

    Fifth Point: The Island has a completely different time thing... Time passes a hell of a lot faster there than the rest of the world. Even though it may not seem like it to the Islanders it is.

    Sixth Point: Locke referred to who he saw at the cabin and who was instructing him as an "Older Walt". So it could be some other kid who looks like Walt but is older running around the Island. Or like Marioman said an illusion of the Island... More specifically the guy the lives in the cabin (forgot his name) is creating the illusion of Walt to give Locke someone to focus his attention on while he was instructing him.

    I think I am done now, lol.

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    ^haha nice just a couple things...that couldn't of been a dream bcause then there would be no way it would change the future...and about Hurley gambling? What makes you say that? Also...I had that time discrepancy idea first and no one wanted to believe it

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    Time couldn't travel faster on the island. That adds too much variability that does not make sense after watching the show.

    Quick example: The men's facial hair would grow at a very quick rate.

    Not to fit a mold,

    Not to join a trend,

    Not to follow a crowd


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    no, it doesnt pass faster, it just is at a different time. once they pass a certain area in the ocean, they are in another time period.

    Spoiler Alert!

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    ^Exactly...

    Quote Originally Posted by Transam317
    How can you say i am going only by my opion i Gave you a good example a Fact so you cant say my thought are opinions because there is evidence to back me up

    When you think of one Illusion on the island that someone has had and that person is still alive then you come talk
    Here are some good examples...In season 2, Kate saw a black horse, this doesn't mean that the horse was alive but shows that the Illusions can be other than human. Second, Hurley saw his imaginary friend, the one that lost the slipper. He was neither dead nor leaving so how do you explain that? Lastly, and most importantly, Shanon (right before she died) saw a vision of Walt, he was all wet too for some odd reason...but anyway we learn form later on in the season walt is not dead. There's your proof right there.

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