Tank I must say something, my friend got a zune, he let me try and its great! he just got it for xmas his little bro gotta 30G Ipod video(black), they got a case for the ipod now i took it out of the case: it looked like **** but his zune which my friend got looked fine. Now i know this is all picky picky about how it looks but i care about that. But on the inside I love the ipod but id rather get a zune. Me and my family have the intel imac and i like better than windows but I do want windows on my mac any how i have no idea why told you all that but who cares.