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    Muslims

    Ahh yess. Yet another controversial thread by Ottoman, Go check out my thread on the current war in the middle east, for more controversy

    Well staying on topic, im sure you all know by now that i am of course a proud Muslim. Others may also know, is they have spoken to me or read some things i have said, that i respect all races, all nations and all religions.

    "To You Your Religion, And To Me Mine" - Glorious Qur'an

    The basic purpose of this thread, is your general view on Muslims. Since the iraq war, many western citizens have been led to believe that Islam is a violent, hating religion that is led by terrorism. If you believe this then...

    1) I laugh in your face, twice.
    2) i suggest you read the Qur'an or at least get to know my religion before you judge it.
    3) I hope that Allah guides you from here on...

    The true morals of the Qur'an teach respect, equality, justice and tolerance. We are taught to respect others religions, and accept them.

    Im sure the more educated ones out there will already know this, and probably laugh off all the bullshit about Islam that is spoken of in America, and other western countries. However im also sure there are some idiotic fools that do not know anything about Islam, yet choose to judge it upon what ever happens to be on the TV screen this morning.

    Well speak on, and dont worry, another controversial thread is already in the making!
    Last edited by ottoman; 04-23-2007 at 03:14 PM.

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    LOL I laugh at SOME Muslims

    This guy at my College says he's a Muslim yet he:

    Does Drugs
    Smokes
    Drinks Beer

    Im pritty sure you can't do one of those at least?

    As for you following it or not I don't know but my mate told me. And I do agree with him

    'Religion only casues agruments' and it does

    I stand by that, Think about Iraq for one second and it's mainly a war based on Religion. It is and UK should be in it lol

    Anyways Im an Athiest and I don't believe in any of this but thanks for hoping Allah guides me from here



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wii_Smurf
    LOL I laugh at SOME Muslims

    They guy at my College says he's a Muslim yet he:

    Does Drugs
    Smokes
    Drinks Beer

    Im pritty sure you can't do one of those at least?

    As for you following it or not I don't know but my mate told me. And I do agree with him

    'Religion only casues agruments' and it does

    I stand by that, Think about Iraq for one second and it's mainly a war based on Religion. It is and UK should be in it lol

    Anyways Im an Athiest and I don't believe in any of this but thanks for hoping Allah guides me from here
    Thats were your wrong, War is started becuase of HATE of religion. If the Western world didnt hate the muslims so much, we wouldnt be on the verge of WW3 right now.

    Iraq isnt a war, its a crime. An illegal invasion, occupation and murder of over 700,000 innocent people. Not to mention Afghanistan. Religion doesnt start wars, Racism does.

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    Ya I don't have anything against Muslims. Its just a religion and I don't see it different from Christianity and all of the other religions out there. Alot of people are stupid and think that all Muslims are terrorists, or evil people which is definitely not true. For example at my school in geography we had a section on the Middle East and they were showing us videos and stuff that imply that all Muslims beat their wives and shoot you if you do something they don't agree with which is entirely untrue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ottoman
    Thats were your wrong, War is started becuase of HATE of religion. If the Western world didnt hate the muslims so much, we wouldnt be on the verge of WW3 right now.

    Iraq isnt a war, its a crime. An illegal invasion, occupation and murder of over 700,000 innocent people. Not to mention Afghanistan. Religion doesnt start wars, Racism does.
    But if there wasn't religion none of this would have started. It's only a belief. And apprently they are trying to help Iraq, Which if they really wanted to they'd pull out lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wii_Smurf
    But if there wasn't religion none of this would have started. It's only a belief. And apprently they are trying to help Iraq, Which if they really wanted to they'd pull out lol
    same if oil hadnt been discovered, or everyone actually got along, or if he world wasnt so small....i could go on for hours.

    You can blame lots of things, religion is just one of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by paintba||er
    Ya I don't have anything against Muslims. Its just a religion and I don't see it different from Christianity and all of the other religions out there. Alot of people are stupid and think that all Muslims are terrorists, or evil people which is definitely not true. For example at my school in geography we had a section on the Middle East and they were showing us videos and stuff that imply that all Muslims beat their wives and shoot you if you do something they don't agree with which is entirely untrue.
    Something ive heard tooo many times, its just a part of propaganda your government issues. it happens everywhere. Love it or hate it, the current american government has waged war on Islam. What you saw in class is just a small part of it.

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    Well Ottoman

    No offence but I see you live in London. I myself live in Manchester and I think that the reason why alot of people in UK mainly mate Muslims and people from pakistan etc is because ALOT of Illegal Immigrants in UK are/Have been proven to be Muslims and that doesn't help the hatred of the religion too..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wii_Smurf
    Well Ottoman

    No offence but I see you live in London. I myself live in Manchester and I think that the reason why alot of people in UK mainly mate Muslims and people from pakistan etc is because ALOT of Illegal Immigrants in UK are/Have been proven to be Muslims and that doesn't help the hatred of the religion too..
    I fail to see how tha would make a religion hated...you think that you can hate a religion becuase the illegal immigrants in your country is mostly muslim? thats pathetic, and you know it. And i think your implying that i am also illegal, if so then once again your wrong. I was born here, and so were my parents. British Citizen...Turkish Cypriot.

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    I wasn't saying that lol
    Im saying that maybe people hate Muslims because of what they do 'Coming into countries Illegally etc'
    Anyways im not going to tell you my personal opinion because Tbh I think your a cool guy and I don't really want to get banned so I'll leave it at that



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    Quote Originally Posted by ottoman
    same if oil hadnt been discovered, or everyone actually got along, or if he world wasnt so small....i could go on for hours.

    You can blame lots of things, religion is just one of them.



    Something ive heard tooo many times, its just a part of propaganda your government issues. it happens everywhere. Love it or hate it, the current american government has waged war on Islam. What you saw in class is just a small part of it.
    Well those Islamic extremeists did their part waging war with the US also. Something i have come to realize is that it's impossible mixing Islam and Democracy. Thats why is going to especially get really sloppy in Iraq.

    Quote Originally Posted by ottoman
    If the Western world didnt hate the muslims so much, we wouldnt be on the verge of WW3 right now.
    you seem to be looking at in one sided. many muslims hate the depise the west in its culture. Like i said they just can't mix. Many of them gather in rallys saying "Death to Americans!" over and over again. Theres a lot of hate coming from both sides.
    Last edited by I_Dont_Know859; 04-11-2007 at 05:43 AM.
    For he is God's servant to do thee good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the servant of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Romans 13:4

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