Originally Posted by Gaz
very good points.
and to the gay thing, most hardcore xians believe it is a choice which has always befuddled me. its not a choice.
athiest for sure... if there was a god he wouldntve made us just to follow by his rules.. if he rly loved us he would send us all to "heaven" whether we be christian or not... and theres still the big question... where did god come from? no1 can believe for a second that he "always was"
were on this planet to live our lives not spend our day off going to church to learn bout sum ghost
thats my two cents lol
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Well, the Bible has a strong part and doesn't move from it's ideals on sexuality, but that God is far from forgiving.Originally Posted by Skippy
And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: neither shalt thou serve their gods; for that will be a snare unto thee.
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
1 Samuel 6:19
And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.
And the LORD'S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, was consumed.
And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me
And pretty much read Numbers 31.
Those people didn't have time to ask for forgiveness.
I just think theres more ways to look at the meaning of life, and how we exist than these set religions and if people had more of an open mind to listen to others free opinions we'd learn more about the world. It's not likely we will get even close to the answers we seek, you see, "the more you know, the more you know you don't know" which makes it all so depressing, but we'll get a better veiw of our surroundings, less one-sided. I still choose not to follow any rule, law, or religion where the followers promote bigotry and hatred yet are happy themselves, its sickening! I try to respect others, bigots as well, but it feels unacceptable. I may not put my message in the most brilliant terms, but maybe you can understand what I mean.
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meh, you take take out of context anything really.....And not just the verses themselves but the political and social surroundings of the Israelites at the time as well.Originally Posted by Taills
i am an atheist
I'm Christian, although I don't practise it on a frequent basis.
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