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    Quote Originally Posted by MetroidZ
    big bang is hard to believe to an extent, ok, they say the universe is expanding, but when the big bang happened, what was the size of the thing that exploded and what was arround it? mysteries of life if the big bang is true. im catholic, but i dont believe in that adam and eve stuff.
    It would have been infinitely small, and there wouldn't have been anything around it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Napalmbrain
    It would have been infinitely small, and there wouldn't have been anything around it.
    [sarcasm]thats easy to believe[/sarcasm] :roll: they are just guessing either way..

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    The problem for any theory on origins, whether God, the big bang or gods is people whant to know what came before. Napalmbrain point is as easy to believe as the theory that God (or gods) just are.

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    NOTE: This is a FRIENDLY comment, so dont flame me please!

    For countless ages, the only book of history available to Christians and Jews was the Old Testament. When someone wanted to know what happened in the past, they would go back and study the Old Testament to find the answer. New theories about history literally
    lived and died by their conformance to what the Old Testament taught. Then the discrepancies began to be noticed.

    Once mankind began to study the Old Testament in detail, comparing the various passages which referred to the same topic in order to obtain as much detail as possible, they began to notice conflicting accounts of many matters as well as other problems. For instance, in the eleventh century, it was noticed that the list of Edomite kings in Genesis 36 names kings who lived long after Moses was dead. Then people began to notice such statements as "to this day" something is true, which implies that the author was looking back at these matters through history and has seen that they have endured.

    In addition, why are the books changed from the old testament? isnt there only ONE true way and religion? This means that the bible is changing ever so frequently and people are changing their beliefs due to wrongs in their "previous" text. People took the bible and changed it around, changed the subscripts and put a lot of their opinion into it and thought about what would fit right. The bible has been changed so many times that you, the Christians/Catholics and others who follow by the bible, are not receiving the same information you have received just decades ago. So what was Jesus's last words?
    "Farewell"? or was it "Goodbye my fellow believers"? or was it "may God bestow his blessings upon all of you"? i wonder... Isn't a changing holy book corrupt altogether? changing a belief and denying its righteousness later on is wrong! this means that you might be following the "wrong" things as we speak, since in the later years to come, more editions of the bible will most likely comeo ut! (even if no more come out, the purpose and damage has already been done since this has occured enough in the past)
    "Many religions within a nation causes little conflict, but two religions within a nation is nothing less than conflict."
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    Finally i found the paper! i asked an Orthodox Christian this question and he stood there puzzled. He said to me after thinking about it for 4 minutes (and yes these were his exact words, i wrote them down to take note of this): "well, in order to spread Christianity, the people with great religous power changed what was in the bible to make it look more interesting and inviting. By doing this, Christianity got more converts ever since then.

    can u respond to this if u have an answer anyone? im really curious to your explanation of why the bible has changed so many times and yet this has not been deemed corrupt? persuade me, im ready to listen

    remember, try to keep away from making a debate out of my comments in this thread and do not flame, as these are friendly comments; im not badmouthing any religion
    "Many religions within a nation causes little conflict, but two religions within a nation is nothing less than conflict."
    "If you can speak three languages, you are trinomial. If you can speak two languages, you are binomial. If you can speak one language, you are American."
    "Speak softly and carry a big stick"--Theodore Roosevelt. Haha describes me nicely.

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    i've wondered that myself and compared different verisons of the bible. they all basically same the same thing but is just worded different from the way its been translated. i got the same message from each verse. The difference between christians (and i mean real christians) and other religions others believe in having to do good works to get to heaven, but our religion is about accepting jesus christ as our lord and savior and developing a relationship with him by following his teaching in the new testament. I know without a doubt in the world that there is a god and i've felt his presence when i asked jesus into my heart. Accepting him is the only way to get to heaven guys but thats your choice to make. I'm just here to represent. There is a heaven and a hell and your going to end up in one or the other, no in between. There is also Satan and demons out there too. When you die and facing judgement dont say i didnt tell you so.
    For he is God's servant to do thee good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the servant of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Romans 13:4

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    i've wondered that myself and compared different verisons of the bible. they all basically same the same thing but is just worded different from the way its been translated. i got the same message from each verse. The difference between christians (and i mean real christians) and other religions others believe in having to do good works to get to heaven, but our religion is about accepting jesus christ as our lord and savior and developing a relationship with him by following his teaching in the new testament. I know without a doubt in the world that there is a god and i've felt his presence when i asked jesus into my heart. Accepting him is the only way to get to heaven guys but thats your choice to make. I'm just here to represent. There is a heaven and a hell and your going to end up in one or the other, no in between. There is also Satan and demons out there too. When you die and facing judgement dont say i didnt tell you so.
    For he is God's servant to do thee good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the servant of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Romans 13:4

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    The Bible is not the word of God, it is the word as God as written down by humans (or for those who believe it is the literal word of God, it is still your interpretations of the word).

    As you know, God is generally accepted to be a pretty amazing guy. In fact he's so amazing it's uncomprehendible. Therefore people cannot truly comprehend what God was telling them to write (or what they are reading), but as time marches on we may understand more.

    "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." ~Corinthian 1 13:12

    Of course, God my have not given us the truth originally, and are discovery of the truth could be part of his ineffable plan. It is, after all ineffable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_DONT_KNOW859
    There is a heaven and a hell and your going to end up in one or the other, no in between.
    Limbo?
    Last edited by Leviathan; 10-17-2006 at 04:08 PM.


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    yes it is because god was guiding the people on what to write
    For he is God's servant to do thee good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the servant of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Romans 13:4

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    As I said, even if you believe it's the literal word of God, it is still coloured by how you interpret it.

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