Yes, good can come from anything, same as bad. Of course, we assume it's bad, simply because we like to think how much "good" they could've done if they'd have been under our control (or at least that's one way of putting it).Originally Posted by yungblood6
The good or evil parts is uncontrollable. If a random person was killed today, we don't know whether it's a good thing really or not. If that person wasn't killed, perhaps he may have killed millions in the future. It's the whole "would you kill Hitler before he got into power if you went back in time?" kinda thing. And what about killing animals? Killing and animal to sustain yourself. Or is "evil" and "good" only to do with man? And if you consider intent, then it's either "constructive or destructive", neither one exclusively "good" or "evil".and its uncontrolable?
You're so misinterpretting me, simply because of your "so-called" moral compass. For Christianity (strict Christianity anyway), homosexuality is a sin and evil. I don't consider it so. Your moral compass says I'm wrong, my logic says you're wrong.so when a woman is beat and raped thats not evil and bad?
And to answer your question: For the woman, it is absolutely devestating. For the rapists, it's a crime (which, if the justice system worked properly, they would be tried and convicted for). It's also devestating a lot of people's lives in a negative manner. In essence, it's one of those actions that is almost universally "consequential", if only for the effects of the people around the woman and the woman herself. Evil and bad are concepts that only go to further the control of people presenting the news through basic emotional manipulation. To be fair, it does work. I wouldn't say it's "bad and evil", because once again, I believe those are terms used for emotional manipulation of others. What I will say is that I would sympathise with the woman and if it were to happen to someone close, I would try and support her as much as possible.
Nope. Tragically misguided. If a man kills another man it's considered Evil by some. If a man kills an evil man, it's considered a good thing. Who is to say what is evil, other than the consequences the supposedly "evil" leaves on the world?so when stupid ass kids walk into malls and schools and just start shooting people, thats not evil?
Okay, only one example was need. Now you're trying to control everyone's opinions through emotional means.Mike vick beating, drowning, and electricuting dogs is not evil?
People that burned and got crushed in twin towers that wasnt evil?
Okay, you have to step back from your ideas about this kind of stuff if you're ever going to be objective in your perceptions of reality. You have to think about "what is evil?", "where did the word come from?", "what was it used to dennote/connote?", "since the concept itself is man-made, does it really have a bearing on anything beyond man?", "who decides what is evil and not?", "Do I consider this action 'evil' if it has positive (if limitedly so) outcomes?".Thats one f**ked up world you live in, where things like that are just ok and just happen because its happens.
Oh, and please, if you're going to swear, at least try to understand what I'm saying first. Okay?
One could argue that religion itself is a control - a control of ideas, a control of behaviour, a control of routine, a control of proximity, a control of understanding, a control of information, a control of attitudes, a control of prejudices etc...See the thing with controll in religion is the devils doing, see if every one would worry about there own self being, and not trying to save every one else there would be no controll issue in religion.
So, you've basically incorporated capitalism into your sense of idealised religion - look out for number one, be the best and screw the rest. Yeah, nice ideology there... Of course, I'm not advocating that everyone should try and convert everyone else - just that a little tollerance of what other's believe, and not a case of "I don't understand how you can think like this, or be like that". Insert the words "want to" after the don't and you'll be saying your real statement.But its not like that you got every body worried about what the next person is doing and not worried about what they are doing, or thinking that they are just perfect.
Yep. Every politician does that, because what better way to get into power, than to convince your electorate that without you, there's no defense against X or Y. This could be a physicaly threat, emotional, moral etc...Then you have politics who try to play the religion roll to get votes or to get people to see thier point.
Knowledge is only good when it's fully understood. Knowledge can also be false. And bettering oneself in what way? Being a "better" person? Doesn't that mean "more Charitable"? or "more socially understanding"? Or do you mean "can breathe underwater"? If a person is a person, how can one be a better "person"? And who would decide what is better? You? Aren't you just growing to be what you want, rather than growing into a better person? They're all subjective terms that restrict one's thinking and perceptions, anchoring them to whatever it's tied to, be it society, the church, anything.If you look at the core princepals in every religion it has nothing to do with control, but about bettering one self, and gaining knowledge.
So, say for example, the 10 commandments, that is in no way a means of control? Even informal? What about the anchoring of understanding of the Holy Trinity? Are they not a way of saying "you will be watched over, no matter what you do"? What about the concept of sinning? You go to hell if you sinned and have not been forgiven. In what way is that not a control? The Bible is completely didcatic. There's very little of it that isn't control, if any at all. Everything is all about control. It's how we see our reflection in the world. It's how we know we exist. It's natural, and when used, it creates a bias. This leads into my original point.its the other aspects of it that people missinterpet or try to use to controll things.
But looking at life in terms of black and white, good and evil, man and woman, etc... is missing the point completely. No matter what any organisation says, living in a black and white world, right and wrong, whether it be religion, politicians, TV, Movies, family, friends etc... is always subjective and restrictive.