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    no but he love's us enough to give us" free will"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonRyan View Post
    no but he love's us enough to give us" free will"
    Do we REALLY have free will? If God has a master plan, then all time would be set to a certain course. Therefore, people cannot control if they sin or not. Therefore, sin really doesn't exist.

    Is it free will?

    And to some other posts before me that I'm too lazy to quote, I suppose you're right. I really hadn't considered some different aspects of God's being, and how he supposedly works.

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    i personally don't believe in free will i am just saying it how a christian would
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    they also believe that the end just already set the free will is how we get there.

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    in short yes.
    God is beyond life and death.
    God sent His SON to earth
    Jesus came as man, but still was God.
    Jesus died, and was dead for 3 days.
    He overcame death and rose again.
    Ascended into heaven.
    So yes, He did die, but it wasnt suicide.

    As for the masterplan thing, think of what Job said. I know you can do all things, and that nothing i do can change your plan)
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    Hehe, I haven't seen a question like that in a while. Then again, I haven't logged on for year, because for some reason I was blocked... Meh...

    Anyway, I feel like attempting to answer your question.
    In one way at looking at it, Jesus was God, part of the Holy Trinity, therefore it could be said that God did sacrifice a part of himself.
    Secondly, Jesus, when he died upon the cross, he only dies within his Physical body, which is totally separate to his spiritual one. As God/Jesus have no need for a physical body in heaven, the body was only so Jesus could be on earth and preach, and thus form the story we all know. The fact is that the pain and suffering he had to go through was real, and the feeling of death was real.
    So, no, God couldn't commit suicide, because spiritual beings cannot "die" as such, or as far as we will ever know. Unless God had a physical body that he allowed to die, then yes, he could, yet even then he d\would not be "dead", as he cannot die.

    Hope that makes sense to you as it does to me

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    I think that yes, God (if he exists) could commit suicide. By definition omnipotence means you can do anything. The way around it I see is, by commiting suicide God relinquishes that omnipotence, hence no paradox.

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    This is how it goes. God protects us. Its referred to by christians as, "Gods hand rest upon you."
    If God raises his hand, you're open game, and you don't want to be open game. Possesions, mysterious bitemarks, mid-night rape sessions that make you feel like youre on fire, nightmares, seeing things in the mirror, hearing voices, seeing a creature right in front of you, and death happens to open game. No God, no protection
    But none of that crap happens to good virtuous Christians?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Napalmbrain View Post
    I think that yes, God (if he exists) could commit suicide. By definition omnipotence means you can do anything. The way around it I see is, by commiting suicide God relinquishes that omnipotence, hence no paradox.


    But none of that crap happens to good virtuous Christians?
    Not sure I understand what your asking. Are you asking if it would happen if God died?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodine View Post
    Not sure I understand what your asking. Are you asking if it would happen if God died?
    You said, God's hamd on you protects you from stuff like "seeing things in the mirror, hearing things...", but that stuff happens to people, including Christians. So is God just slacking off or something?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Napalmbrain View Post
    You said, God's hamd on you protects you from stuff like "seeing things in the mirror, hearing things...", but that stuff happens to people, including Christians. So is God just slacking off or something?
    OOOHHH... no no no.

    What I'm talking about is a full on assault. Constantly harassed by demonic beings.

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