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    Well, I was unaware that it was said He would eventually destroy him. Again, I don't have complete knowledge of the text, but I'm trying to get there. So far from what I know from the Bible, I have understood that the conflict is only between Him and the devil. (In case you further cite that post, I have since editted it before you quoted it the first time, though most of it was to encourage clarity)
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    I really need to read the bible more often...

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    did someone says that i don't exist?
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    @DG: why? it's nothing but lies, just like every religious text.

    i have yet to see or hear proof of god, and inteligent design is not proof. until i do get proof, i refuse to believe in a lie.

    @kikae: what?

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    Yeah,sadly there isnt proof.Only believes.Its like santa claus for adults..Like people say then how did the universe start.Then,as disscused say the big bang (theory).But remember thats only a theory.

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    a theory yes, but it has evidence to back it up, to prove it.

    god has no evidence, no proof, and thus does not exist.

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    But still, people like me still believe in god more than that theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow*91 View Post
    a theory yes, but it has evidence to back it up, to prove it.
    Alright I just want to make this clear, because people keep making this mistake: A theory is not just a guess. It is a testable model which is consistent with observations. Lemaître didn't just come up with the Big Bang theory on a whim, it was based on the evidence available. And what's more, since his day the evidence for the Big Bang has increased, especially with the discovery of the cosmic microwave background.

    Incidentally, Lemaître himself was not only a believer in God, he was a priest.
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    Isn't there research involving archeology and other such things that support the story of Jesus? I keep hearing from people that such research exists, not to the point of factually explaining anything, but at least to the point that it becomes a theory, perhaps?

    Whether that is true or not, even theories require a stroke of faith if they to be supported, right? If so, what happens if the issue never has factual evidence? Surely we can't simply write off that the phenomenon we're trying to explain suddenly does not have an existing reason for it just because we haven't found an answer.

    Anyway, I could argue that the "evidence" surrounding God's word is in first having faith in it and applying it to one's life. Over time, it has a way of benefiting a person's lifestyle and giving it purpose and direction. The evidence, so to speak, is in its positive results that are experienced internally.

    Having personally experienced this myself in my own life is mainly how I have been able to evolve from a skeptic into a believer. Even I love to have my share of facts on pretty much anything before I can believe it, but I have to remember that the concept of God primarily has a spiritual basis. How can we understand the spirit if we can't even place a degree of our faith (which is wholly spiritual) in something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio View Post
    Isn't there research involving archeology and other such things that support the story of Jesus? I keep hearing from people that such research exists, not to the point of factually explaining anything, but at least to the point that it becomes a theory, perhaps?
    It's impossible to say exactly how accurate the Gospels are, but someone had to start the religion. I think at the least, it's safe to say that someone in land of Israel was preaching what they claimed to be the word of God at some time around 30-33 AD.

    Whether that is true or not, even theories require a stroke of faith if they to be supported, right? If so, what happens if the issue never has factual evidence? Surely we can't simply write off that the phenomenon we're trying to explain suddenly does not have an existing reason for it just because we haven't found an answer.
    Scientists do sometimes make leaps of faith regarding theories, but unlike religion, it's in the assumption that we'll find evidence for them later- a good scientists doesn't just rely on their own beliefs. Technically speaking, a theory is never really 'proven' (they can be disproved, however), but it can reach a point where there is so much evidence that it would be foolish to deny it.



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