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    Hmm... can't tell whether to get involved in this discussion or not. On one hand I have fairly good arguments, on the other hand my side is hated, and I'll probably not represent it well anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King View Post
    If there was a single one answer t' that question, the world would be a grand place, wouldn't it?
    If anything, it'd probably be the opposite of grand. A place where everyone is treated equally is likely to have adverse effects on progress and in general, our own species' survival. Our advances have been largely due to inequality, such as capitalism's need of exploitation of the less fortunate. To strive for a world where everyone is happy due to equal rights is in many ways naive and ignorant of the way our world works.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoxLamina View Post
    Hmm... can't tell whether to get involved in this discussion or not. On one hand I have fairly good arguments, on the other hand my side is hated, and I'll probably not represent it well anyway.
    I tried staying out, but they kept going at it, so why not? The more the merrier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiiAssasin View Post
    A place where everyone is treated equally is likely to have adverse effects on progress and in general, our own species' survival. Our advances have been largely due to inequality, such as capitalism's need of exploitation of the less fortunate.
    That pretty much covers half my stuff already.

    But, I do believe heavily in chivalry... my own strange kind of chivalry. Anarcho-chivalry, basically take that social darwinism stuff and combine it with a revolutionary thought-line that encourages constant uprising to make sure that the people in charge are actually fit for it.

    Of course then the chivalry adds the spin of attempting to protect the weak, which seems hypocritical; but that's really about protecting humanities potential. Very powerful things and ideas come from strange places, so keeping all of the resource (people) safe is an important part of the system, even if the people don't do as well in a competitive society they have to be given their chance to fight society and achieve something on their own.

    So in conclusion: Things could be better, but that would be unrealistic.

    Edit: I feel like a failure of a writer looking back and seeing how error filled that paragraph was...
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    @ Assasin: ... Speakin' of goin' at it, I just remembered that conversation we were havin' 'bout Smash awhile ago. Think I forgot 'bout it 'cause of a migraine...

    Quote Originally Posted by WiiAssasin View Post
    A place where everyone is treated equally is likely to have adverse effects on progress and in general, our own species' survival.
    If a legitimate thesis could support this seemingly absurd sentiment, I'd shit Pokeblocks. Then, start hating the world even more.

    Quote Originally Posted by WiiAssasin View Post
    Our advances have been largely due to inequality.
    Giving majority credit to advances in technology, science and whatnot to anything at all sounds preposterous to me, none the less human inequality. Do explain how inequality is directly responsible for humankind's progression.

    Quote Originally Posted by WiiAssasin View Post
    To strive for a world where everyone is happy is in many ways naive and ignorant of the way our world works.
    obvsly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King View Post
    If a legitimate thesis could support this seemingly absurd sentiment, I'd shit Pokeblocks. Then, start hating the world even more.
    Essays are my weakest point in everything ever, so no. Keep your Pokeblocks within yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King
    Giving majority credit to advances in technology, science and whatnot to anything at all sounds preposterous to me, none the less human inequality. Do explain how inequality is directly responsible for humankind's progression.
    Competitivenessesses. Not the video game or sports kind, the one that actually matters.

    Probably most of the things you own, clothes, video games, utensils, and so on were made in China, which is infamous for exploiting its people. Also the reason it's cheaper than it could be if it were made here. Much of our trash is shipped off to 3rd world countries, some of which is toxic. The reason America became an economic powerhouse was due to the profits of slavery. Animal testing, while not involving humans(most of the time) is still an inequality. Many scientific discoveries have been due to it. You get the picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiiAssasin View Post
    Essays are my weakest point in everything ever, so no. Keep your Pokeblocks within yourself.
    ... Can't be arsed t' write one myself.

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    Competitivenessesses. Not the video game or sports kind, the one that actually matters.
    Nonsense, competitive gaming most assuredly matters. It has it's own economical impact. Venues are rented, merchandise is produced and sold, prize money pots bein' built almost entirely from sponsors... it's sure as shit not a multi-billion dollar industry (and thus is only a small part of the gaming industry in its own right), but there's lots of money goin' 'round in said vidya gaem culture.

    Quote Originally Posted by WiiAssasin View Post
    Probably most of the things you own, clothes, video games, utensils, and so on were made in China, which is infamous for exploiting its people. Also the reason it's cheaper than it could be if it were made here. Much of our trash is shipped off to 3rd world countries, some of which is toxic. The reason America became an economic powerhouse was due to the profits of slavery. Animal testing, while not involving humans(most of the time) is still an inequality. Many scientific discoveries have been due to it. You get the picture.
    In other words, if someone doesn't have "their share" of wealth they "earned", someone else does. Our wealth is thanks to inequality and exploitation. Indirectly, wealth funds growth and progress. Indirectly. Capitalism, feudalism, etc. isn't the only answer for economy. Certainly ain't the best neither, but that's a whole 'nother topic... one I'd rather not touch too. economy talk = boring

    Summarized, money makes the world go 'round, regardless of how said worth is obtained. Exploitation is just one of many means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King View Post
    Nonsense, competitive gaming most assuredly matters. It has it's own economical impact. Venues are rented, merchandise is produced and sold, prize money pots bein' built almost entirely from sponsors... it's sure as shit not a multi-billion dollar industry (and thus is only a small part of the gaming industry in its own right), but there's lots of money goin' 'round in said vidya gaem culture.
    I'm sure there's lots of money going around in the competitive gaming industry, but not in legitimate ways. Also doesn't help that their culture is tasked with taking the fun out of gaming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King
    economy talk = boring
    You make no sense. Money talk is never boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiiAssasin View Post
    I'm sure there's lots of money going around in the competitive gaming industry, but not in legitimate ways.
    No idea what you're implyin'.

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    It also helps that their culture is tasked with making gaming even more fun.
    fix'd

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    You make no sense. Money talk is never boring.
    Money involves math, your argument is invalid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash_King View Post
    Money involves math, your argument is invalid.
    Actually that invalidates your argument. The only people who don't find math fun are the people who haven't stuck with math to get to the higher level maths that are actually fun. Yes, low level math is boring; but so is anything at the lowest level.

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    The only people who enjoy math of any level are math freaks.

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