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[Pichu2k7]

Get out. Get out. No insulting N.

He was the first villain in a game with proper character creation.

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[Mr. MR]

Get out. Get out. No insulting N.

N sucks compared to Blue

He was the first villain in a game with proper character creation.

Blue had a history and a character arc

[Neosquid]

N sucks compared to Blue

We're not starting this again. And Blue isn't a villain.

And I've stated before that I like Blue a lot too.

[Mr. MR]

We're not starting this again. And Blue isn't a villain.

And I've stated before that I like Blue a lot too.

N is a villain now
I did not realize it
I though he was mislead

Blue and N would be an antagonist

[Neosquid]

N is a villain now
I did not realize it
I though he was mislead

Blue and N would be an antagonist

Err......he was mislead, indeed, but he's a villain during the events of B1/W1.

Also like Archie cause I like water and he uses a Sharpedo.

[Splash_King]

N ain't a villain, he's a bloody hero. He's also the primary antagonist.

The villains are always so bland...

'Cause they're clean-cut run of the mill criminals, minus certain teams' crazy objectives. Also, almost all of 'em are bland. For example, Cyrus wasn't some greedy, generic mobster like Giovanni. Nor was he a simpleton tool who didn't know what they were dealing with like Maxie or Archie. He would'a been a very interesting villain had the game took the time to give 'em backstory prior to puttin' an end to his plans, as well as fleshed out his character moar. Point bein', I think he was a good villain who also had quite a bit of potential. ... Utterly wasted potential. thnx trollfreak

[Neosquid]

N ain't a villain, he's a bloody hero. He's also the primary antagonist.

Haven't read the B2/W2 plot yet, no spoilers for me.

He would'a been a very interesting villain had the game took the time to give 'em backstory prior to puttin' an end to his plans, as well as fleshed out his character moar. Point bein', I think he was a good villain who also had quite a bit of potential. ... Utterly wasted potential. thnx trollfreak

Well, to be fair, there was a little bit of into given about his past, but not much. It was said that he lived in Sunyshore and did very well in school, but he never lived up to his parents expectations. Better then nothing I guess, some info is good.

[Splash_King]

Haven't read the B2/W2 plot yet, no spoilers for me.

I was referrin' to BW1 ya fool. I don't know nothin' of BW2's plot either.

Well, to be fair, there was a little bit of into given about his past, but not much. It was said that he lived in Sunyshore and did very well in school, but he never lived up to his parents expectations. Better then nothing I guess, some info is good.

That was my point. The only information given 'bout 'em was by a random guy in a house within that desert East of the Battle Frontier, which was accessible only long after ya beat 'em. The game obviously made no attempt to deliver this information 'bout Cyrus prior to his plot failing. There was never any pity or sympathy to be developed for his character as such when there was much potential.

[Neosquid]

That was my point. The only information given 'bout 'em was by a random guy in a house within that desert East of the Battle Frontier, which was accessible only long after ya beat 'em. The game obviously made no attempt to deliver this information 'bout Cyrus prior to his plot failing. There was never any pity or sympathy to be developed for his character as such when there was much potential.

It's more info then we had on Giovanni, Maxie, Archie, Evice, etc. :P

[Pichu2k7]

It's more info then we had on Giovanni, Maxie, Archie, Evice, etc. :P

There really needs to be more story on the villains other then "He's a bad guy go beat him down and sent him away to unknown local". Hoping that N will become a heavy story based character other then "He's the antagonist, go fight him repeatedly over and over."