i dont get it either. i mean they truly made a "revolution" with this console, they really did. no the graphics arent all that. but over 75% of homes DO NOT HAVE HD TV's. and hd just adds more price. they were smart sacrificing graphics for game play and price. but we all have our tastes. some people prefer to sit there with the same grip on the controller that weve had for 8 years now. i say screw that. the wii takes a lot more coordination because youre using more than your thumbs. and this is coming from myself whos had thousands of hours on the ps2 online alone(socom2 and 3). im tired of playing games like that. if i want graphics ill play on my computer, it crushes the ps3 and 360 on graphics and that will always be the case.