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    IMO the gamcube was kind of a disappointment but it did have its good games. the wii's controller is diffrent and thats why everyone is like "omg it looks like a remote. how dumb" but if you think about it, with the nunchuck, its the same as a normal controller. just the 2 sides arent physicly conected. the controller can be anything from a steering wheele to a fishing pole. nintendo already said that many game developers are excited about the remote's sensor and speaker and that they are coming up with awsome ways to utilize them. your complaining about nintendo not having good 1st part games? play station has VERY few 1st pary games (i cant think of any actualy). the PS1 and 2 were great systems. the PS3 is the same thing only this time they are too full of themselves. they are trying to get people to think that gfx are better than anything. gfx are nice but its performance. its like taking a broken car from the junk yard and making it look nice but saying "screw the engine and transmission. the looks are what counts." now would you rather have that car or a car that looks like a rust bucket but has a brand new V8 engine and transmission and drive train, ect? the wiis gfx may not be the best but the games that are scheduled to come out promise awsome gameplay

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    The GC had better quality graphics than the PS2, was made more efficiently as well. The result - Metroid Prime graphics completely surpass the graphics ever seen in any PS2 game - there's no jagged edges to be seen and the quality is superb. Its on par with the XBOX console.

    The only thing the GC disappointed me in was the lack of many good quality third party games apart from retro studios... The controller I found was far more comfy than the PS2 and XBOX, the graphics were good quality and the console was very light compared to the other consoles. PS2 didn't have four port multiplayer because it was more focused on the lone gamer playing a FPS game or a sports game.

    Speaking of FPS, I used to enjoy playing them in games like Doom, GoldenEye, Halo etc. Then I got bored... why? FPS are essentially all the same except for the storyline and the type of monsters you have to kill. And all you pretty much do is run around shooting anything that comes in the way.

    On another post IMO a really good shooter would be Turok... It is a bit of a cross between FPS and adventure. That game had one of the coolest fog effects I've ever seen in a FPS game. The background music was good as well.

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    Some fair points and opinions you've made. Sorry to everyone else that I didn't read the persuing replies before posting this.

    Obviously the main reason everyone wants the Wii is because of the Wii-mote and new way to play, probably already been mentioned a fair few times in this thread. I've heard the Gamecube was actually a prototype for the Wii... I'm not sure where this info came from or how true it is, but look at it this way, Shigeru Miyamoto would have evaluated to no end on how well/bad the Gamecube sold for, and would have added up all the good and bad points about it.

    We're in the same boat when it comes to how bad the Gamecube was, admitedly... I loved Smash Bros. Melee and Sonic .A. 2 Battle (which derrived from Dreamcast first though) and some of Mario Sunshine, but that's it. As for the N64, loved that.

    Miyamoto would have seen these things too, what was fun about the N64, and what was fun about the Gamecube, and what was bad about both, using evaluation they've probably been able to iron out most of the cons and stacked most of the pro's over time. Hence why Nintendo is still running well in business, it's the longest running video game company of all time from what I gather.

    The only difference I see between the PS2 and Xbox, or the PS3 and Xbox 360, is graphical power. Graphics, smoke and mirrors are nice... but they can be the only things the game developers focus on, and can COMPLETELY take out the fun of a game. I like Dead Rising for the 360 because even though it's "another zombie game", it's still got it's own way of 'uniqueness' about it, it's the only time-based game I like, and I usually DETEST time based games and levels.

    The point I'm making is that Nintendo, for this gen they're not focussing so much on graphics, but a unique way to play, which's what's so appealing. The Gamecube, lets face it, was just a more ellaborate graphics engine in comparison to the N64, and in comparison to the Xbox and PS2 graphics, it really had nothing else going for it other than how compact the console was.

    I think I was going to punch in something else here, but it's slipped my mind during typing. Anyway, that's my response, you've got your own arguement, and set it out quite well, holding back the "LOL NINTENDO SUX" flaming that some people do, +10 respect for that.

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    Edit: I remember what I was going to type. Haha. The first thing that caught the attention of the gamers was the controller layout... I mean, what the hell? The "revolutions" controller looks so stupid! (That was my very first initial instinct) But, it got me interested, and like many of the people here undoubtably, I decided to look into just what the heck was going on. Once I started reading about the in-wii-mote-speaker and the motion sensors etc, I actually started to think "...Wow... that's actually pretty cool..." and from then on became more and more intrigued with the product.

    Then they renamed the Revolution... Oh boy the responses they got from THAT one... "Wii? WII?!?! What the hell?!" Was the response... People read the reason behind the names and had varying responses to that, ranging from "Tell it preacher!! Viva La Wii!" to "That's the biggest pile of crud I've ever heard." But that's not the point, the point is you REMEMBER the name, and it's going to be very hard to forget, I mean c'mon, "Wii." How can you forget it?

    So they had their fanbase, they had their attention, they had new ears listenning, then they go to E3 and blow the world away with the potential of the Wii. It's not just the uniqueness of the console and name, but how they went about releasing all this news about it.

    Very well done.
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    PS3 players shove themselves up so high on the ****ing pedestal stating "I play adult Games," when most of them aren't even old enough for the censorship label. If anyone watched diggnation at e3 it showed a group of around 100 20-30 year olds, not there for any particular reason but just to watch the show. All of them wanted a wii. Let's face it, if you want another racing game or first person shooter with just "improved graphics" then by all means spend a months wages on a ps3. But what the wii is doing is actually improving your experience. It's even improved the ps3 experience as they have stolen some of their controller physics

    Who actually wants to be able to see fractions of skull on walls once you've shot someone over a genuinely fresh new experience. I'll tell you who, sexually frustrated idiots

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    First of all, you can't say Nintendo makes low-content games, because that is what Third-Parties do, second, they dont make marios looking all like the N64 version, maybe you should wake up and look at that. I read most of your rant, which is rare, because I ussualy read the first paragraph, but the Wii already has tons of Third-Party support, so much support Nintendo is delaying games so that it gives its Third-party support chances to sell their games. And stop comparing stuff to N64, have you seen N64 games, SORRRRRY if they looked so good, which they did at the time, but now they don't! Take a second look at a N64 game, you probably at the time got thoes graphics stuck, then havent looked at it again and still think they are what is out now. Same thing happened to me.
    the Wii controller dosen't limit, becuase if people want to not use it, they can just make it use the GC as an alt.
    I love debates, but not with people who are so uneducated on what their debating on.

    Oh and rely on old games..? Maybe it's because their good, why change when you have good? What about Ridge Racer 7! ****IN 7!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PS3man
    I complained because of my recent experiance with Nintendo.
    So, you're complaining because of what you've experienced, rather than what Nintendo DID.

    The GameCube sucked and anyone I know agrees.
    Everyone I know says that the Gamecube is great. I have been a Nintendo fan since the NES too, and I've understood virtually every decision they've made.

    I can name at least 100 people right now who would agree.
    Is that in real life or is that on the internet? Because if so, I could name 1500 people who like Nintendo, cos this forum has hit over 1500 members.

    I was very dissapointed that I wasted the money on it.
    You didn't, you just lost heart because you were obviously around people that weren't into it (from the way the previous point sounded).

    I would play and beat all the worth while games and unlock all the content, I bet in two months at the latest.
    How many Gamecube games do you own, because I can guarantee that the "worthwhile games" will take more than 2 months to complete everything on.

    This will be good for kids, but I know a lot of people who were not kids played the older systems and had a blast.
    There's quite a few people I know (not kids) that have had fun on the Gamecube. You've obviously be choosing the wrong games.

    And I think, nay I know, I have played more games then many if not everyone reviewing these forums.
    Your perception of the forums here are obviously quite limited. This isn't just a place for 13 year old kids who liked a few games on the Gamecube go. Also, I'd love to hear why you think you've played more games than some of the senior members here (age-wise). You're not just talking to Nintendo fans, you're talking to gamers. I own a variety of different consoles, and am offended by some random guy stating that he "knows" he's played more games than me. I say prove it.

    I like the interaction of the controller, but how much with all that games that utilize it limit the games total content?
    You obviously have been ill-informed. Most of the games in development utilize the innovation and the general variety of ways the controller could be used. This is why Nintendo puts pictures up of hopw people play these games. Likewise, if a game doesn't NEED a new control scheme, or the new remote will get in the way, they have the option of sticking with the Gamecube controls. For example, Smash Bros Brawl.

    With the name PS3man, I think that this is more of a troll/flamebait than anything. I suggest a closing of the topic. I understand having doubts about the new system, but to basically ignore the Gamecube's game catalogue is just plain silly. To call the Gamecube "kiddie" is to ignore titles like Eternal Darkness, Geist, Resident Evil (remake, Zero and 4 at least). Let's not forget the multi-platform "non-kiddie" games, such as the Timesplitters series, Second Sight, Prince of Persia, Killer 7, Metal Gear etc... Likwise, to claim that the Gamecube lacks original titles, neglects to mention the likes of Pikmin, Viewtiful Joe, Final Fantasy Chrystal Chrnoicals etc... And let's just recap on the focus on Nintendo's first party titles - How many AAA first party title games do Sony and Microsoft have? All of the system-seller titles come from third parties.

    But then, all that would hurt one's digg at Nintendo...


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    Just cause Sony can't come up with a new controller, dosen't give you the right to bash on Nintendo's. Nintendo was going down the drain in home consoles, and they take a risk, yet Sony dosen't take a risk even when it has almost all the money in the world it could want.

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    *sigh* Just Close This Topic Please, i0n...

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    ... Never actually thought people would start flaming this much. The guy was just stating an opinion, and was, if at all, flaming very slightly. They want to buy a PS3, fine, they backed it up with reason on why they don't want to buy nintendo. Only his reason, he's not saying to us that we shouldn't buy our nintendo, but asking why we are (it's not REALLY in a derogatory manner either).

    There's no reason for a flame war, as this person had minimal intentions of provoking one.

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    This thread started off well, and it pleased me with the level of maturity and intelligent discussion that came as a result of a possible flame baiting subject.

    Lets not have this spiral into console bashing, lets keep this a well informed and mature thread please

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