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    Ya know, I've personally really gotten tired of amazing graphics. Yes, I know that sounds nuts, but just let me explain.

    I go to IGN and I check out every single section; PC, PS2, PS3, Xbox, Xbox 360, DS, Wii. Other than the DS and Wii, all have previews and reviews of games that are packed with bump-mapping and particle effects and physics and blah blah BLAH! Everything is shiny and textured to death and guess what, except for a few, none of them really look real. Half-life 2 is really the only game that could be mistaken for real life. Almost every other game I see, I would never say "Woah! That's a video game? I thought that was a sci-fi movie! Are you serious, that's really a video game! I can't believe it!" It's not that these games don't look good or aren't getting close to photo-realism, but they still aren't there and most likely won't be til the next gen or next next gen.

    All the FPSs are just looking the same, simply with different characters and weapons and worlds. I mean, look at Spore! Sorry, but there is no other game as anticipated as that game and guess what, it doesn't look nor try to look real. However, I hate when people say it's ALL ABOUT GAMEPLAY! If it were, then blind people would be able to play games. Graphics are very important in illustrating the story that's being told. What if the movie Saving Private Ryan or Scarface were recorded using a RAZR cellphone? They wouldn't have the impact and they wouldn't take you there.

    I think the best console game I've ever seen is Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory for Xbox. It's simply amazing how real that game looks and feels and sounds. Wii will have graphics atleast that good or better. That's good enough for me.

    *EDIT* Just look at these new screens of Red Steel.





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    Quote Originally Posted by JVIPER82
    There's no such thing as "extras". There's no such thing as "free" either. Do you think Nintendo arbitrarily picked a price point of their systems, games, accessories? No... it's based on the cost of production, the costs of design, plus profits.

    It costs money to put software together. It costs money to go through prototypes and testing. Everything costs money, and that is reflected in the price of the system. If those things were included AND the graphics were improved, fine... but what would nintendo do? They would raise the price of the console!

    I was just trying to think of ways to keep the price reasonably close to the same as it is now (by getting rid of the supurfluous stuff) and adding what I felt was more important to gaming.
    An extra is something that dosent HAVE to be there but it is for more fun more enjoyment and what not. So they are extras. Does it need Channels for the Wii to run? Nope. Thanks for replying to my post, it makes me feel that i accomplished by getting something through to you. And duh everything costs money? Did i say something about money??
    No I wasnt..why were you talking about that?

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    Jesus, I haven't seen those screenies before Nate. Those look bloody excellent. If ever a screenshot would change my mind about the power of the Wii in terms of graphics, it's those. I now have absolutely NO doubts about purchasing Red Steel on release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip
    Jesus, I haven't seen those screenies before Nate. Those look bloody excellent. If ever a screenshot would change my mind about the power of the Wii in terms of graphics, it's those. I now have absolutely NO doubts about purchasing Red Steel on release.
    they are new. and those are the small pics. big ones look cool.

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    Those Red Steel pics are fupping amazing. Off to ign to have a proper nosey at those now .

    - The Opera internet browser (c'mon... computers are much better for surfing the net!)
    - The Wii Channels (I don't need to turn on my game system to check the weather, news, etc. And who is gonna show photos on the Wii??)
    Ill quite happily use those, for quick bursts when I cant be arsed going on the net or sitting through 30 minutes of a news channel to finally show what I want to see.

    Wiiconnect24 seems a good idea to me so that updates are ready to go soon as you want to play instead of messing about when you start up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVIPER82
    To set the record straight, I am a fan of Nintendo, have owned all of their systems at one point or another and intend on buying the Wii as well. However...

    It seems to me that there is a lot of superfluous stuff incorporated in the Wii console that I just don't deem necessary. And I can't help but think that if those resources were used in different ways, we would have a much better machine to work with.

    I know the point of the Wii is about the gameplay and not the graphics; and that is why I will be buying the system, but at the same time, graphics DO play an important role in gameplay and the enjoyment of that game. I personally think that having graphics that are only slightly better than the XBox isn't very impressive.

    Some of the things that I feel are unneccesary that are included with the wii:

    - The Opera internet browser (c'mon... computers are much better for surfing the net!)
    - The Wii Channels (I don't need to turn on my game system to check the weather, news, etc. And who is gonna show photos on the Wii??)
    - The Miis (does anyone really care about creating their own avatars? REALLY???)
    - WiiConnect24 (why?? I don't need to constantly be connected to the internet for updates! The result of this is a smaller system that cannot consume enough power. I would not have included this unnecessary feature)
    -The speaker in the Wiimote. (The sound quality is poor to begin with and I don't forsee this thing being used in a way that would enhance my gameplay!)

    Imagine all of the time, energy and resources that were put into these projects. When instead, they could have boosted the graphical abilities of the machine. Without the WiiConnect24 feature, they could make the console slightly larger and include some additional technologies to close the gap between the Wii and the other two systems.

    Finally, in the box, I would have included two wiimotes and nunckuck attachments instead of Wii Sports.

    Tell if you guys think I'm off base. Let me know if you would prefer these other options built into the Wii. To me, it just seems like fluff, but that could only be me...

    Thanks for your input!
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    Are you serious? All these extras are great! Who is going to complain that you get MORE stuff for less? I mean come on it comes with a sports bundle, the Miis are a GREAT idea because people love customization, the Channels is great to check quick new/weather after having a game and before leaving the house.... Nintendo is doing something great here and YOU are complaining about it?

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    about the wii being connected 24/7, i thinks its a good idea. right now i have my xbox on and it is downloading a new demo and 2 trailers. it would be awsome if it would just auto download them while im sleeping. also it can auto update games. say your playing SMG and you find a glitch that is causing you to not be able to finish the game. it would suck if there want anything for you to do. well with wiiconnect, nintendo can release a patch to fix that glitch. now about the Wii Channels. kinda useless but still, i have XBMC (Xbox Media Center) on my modded xbox and it has a whether feature on it. i dont have to tune into the wheather channel and wait for them to show the local wheater. i can just go to the Wii wheather channel and get it. now for the Mii's. its just something fun. i cant imagine that making the console any more expensive. they have chat programs on the net where you make your own 3D character and those are distributed free so even if that wasnt added, the price would still be $250. also everyone who is telling him to deal with it and to stop compaining, people are allowed to voice their opinions. jviper, i know what you are talking about but people today want extras. they want more for their money and if nintendo wants to stay alive in the console buisness, they need to give the customer what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Out
    Are you serious? All these extras are great! Who is going to complain that you get MORE stuff for less? I mean come on it comes with a sports bundle, the Miis are a GREAT idea because people love customization, the Channels is great to check quick new/weather after having a game and before leaving the house.... Nintendo is doing something great here and YOU are complaining about it?
    I can see from most of the responses on this board that you guys don't agree with my perception of the other stuff included with the Wii that I consider to be "fluff".

    The new pictures of Red Steel DO look very good, and most likely when I buy the Wii, that will be the game I pick up.

    Even though most of the people here don't agree with my opinion of the system's extra stuff, I gotta ask... Do you guys REALLY REALLY see yourselves making Miis and playing with them?? Do you really see yourself going on the Wii to check the News instead of reading a newspaper or going online?? or checking the weather instead of going to Weather.com?? It just doesn't make sense to me. It seems SO unnecessary when there are devices that are specifically designed for these tasks.

    And one little note to the person whose post I quoted: With the Wii, I wouldn't say you're getting more for less... You're getting more for more, like you usually do. You think Wii Sports is just "free"? We're being charged for it, unfortunately. Additionally, the technology involved here, while it's application is great, is clearly NOT costing Nintendo much money. Reggie stated that the Wii will make money out of the box. The other two companies are willing to take a loss on the technology incorporated in the system and make that back on game and accessory sales. And while I clearly understand the business aspect of their decision, you aren't getting more for less at all. The technology in the PS3, whether people dislike the price of the console or not, is SO advanced it is more than worth its price.

    I'm not conplaining about the Wii sucking or anything. I was asking for people's opinions on the additional stuff. I'm still buying a Wii, because I think it will be a lot of fun to play! I'm waiting for a real baseball game. that will be a blast! So don't go thinking I'm hating on Nintendo or the System. I have some issues with them, but nothing more.
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