Agreed ZeroG , the camp outs are fun, its mostly the teenage crowd with a few adults mixed in, dedicated parents, etc. The 360 launch was a bit wild, they ran out of "premium" systems and a fist fight broke out. But dont worry the Nintendo launches i have attended are considerably calm. Mostly groups sharing info, and talking about which games to get. If you do have a pre order it truly does not garauntee a system...it doesnt.Online sure, but stores have sold pre orders if they are sure of a second shipment, in this case, it will ship again the next day 20th. So if you pre ordered at gamestop you still will have to get in line. I was assured that if I strolled in without pre order on the day of the launch I could still buy the wii. More food for thought, they truly cant garauntee anything these days, look at TMX Elmo I preordered that puppy 8 months ago, I didnt get one til a month after the first shipment.