here we go again, prepare to be bashed for bringing up 360 in this house. It has been well documented that Big N states the graphics arent ps3 or 360, So you state the obvious. Besides nobody gives a shizzle. Sure they wont be completely smooth textures, but games are fantasy my man. Im not gonna jump all over ya cuz Im not here to make enemies, but keep your 360 talk down, your system while looking good will fall behind because of innovation. Sony knows it too. Interacting with the environment on screen has always been a fantasy of ours....virtual reality. The wii is closest in this aspect, the graphics are GOOD enough and thats all that matters. People are excited to be involved in their gaming experience, not lay on a couch and mash buttons. Those days are over come November 19. Pretty pics....thats all you want? If I want to look at nice pictures I look in a photo album, besides graphics depend on what the developers are willing to spend to achieve that "look" of next gen. Sorry fanboy...RED STEEL is all I have to say.