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    Quote Originally Posted by wezeles
    Ahh another ps3 fanboy that thinks they still have a chance with a 10 year console... does anyone believe the PS3 will last 10 years? even anyone at sony? out of all of them i think sony has the shortest life span of all...

    unless they come out with something killer, like the crazy interactiveness of the eye toy they promised and fast... sony might as well throw in the towl for the next 9 years because the only thing they will dominate is last place...

    You know Nintendo and Microsoft are both working on crazy killer systems right now with the all the new stuff that has hit the gaming market... It might even hit us sooner than the 5 year cycle we are use to...

    Sony just has to admit it was a Bad move on there part to have such a Crazy advanced and expensive console, and to force Blue ray with it... they will survive though they are a huge company and have a decent enough "hardcore base" that they might even break even after selling the ps3 below cost...

    They have had this type of stuff happen to Sony in the past: see mini disk...
    and to Nintendo aswell: see virtual boy..

    but you gotta get messy and make mistakes once in a while to make progress, they just need to admit they messed up, fix the problem and move on...

    if they keep thinking they are king and that everyone will come crawling back they are just going to end up loosing there gaming market all together... and that would be a shame for all of us...
    It's a good article, dude. Youíre letting Fanboyism get in the way of the truth. The Wii needs to do all these things.

    BTW...The PS3 is not a mistake. They have great games, a good system, and Bluray is great. It's so fashionable to hate on the PS3. Be a think for yourselfer, dude.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_League_Slugger
    It's a good article, dude. You’re letting Fanboyism get in the way of the truth. The Wii needs to do all these things.

    BTW...The PS3 is not a mistake. They have great games, a good system, and Bluray is great. It's so fashionable to hate on the PS3. Be a think for yourselfer, dude.

    Totally dude im sorry...lol shut up

    i dont hate the PS3 ive said in many post its one of the most top of the line systems made.... but thats also the reason its in last place and will stay there without some brilliant marketing and price cuts.... if anything what they are telling the Wii to do is what PS3 needs to do...

    The wii has more Peripherals than any of them... wii fit will be hitting everyware soon, aswell as all the popular 3rd party peripherals, they are trying to rush out a rockband for the wii now cause they had no clue of its popularity untill it was too late...

    PS3 on the other hand offers little extra For the money you spend.. you can get the same games on a 360 with better online play.. and a way better price

    Sony needs needs needs to come out with this crazy new eye toy thats all there is too it, they say its recognition software will put game play at levels close to the Wii's... once i see that with more than a couple games ill go buy a ps3 myself...

    Ive also said they need to remarket the PS3 twards the entire family not just the gamers... to the Dads for Blue Ray and there HD videos, As a Game console for the kids, and if you get eyetoy it might be interactive enough mom will even play... but Sony still thinks it dominated with "hardcore fans" When the fact is sony had more casual gamers than any of the other 2 consoles with ps2... and now they are loosing these gamers over to the Wii...

    untill then its only the devoted fan base "fanboys" that are willing to shell out the cash for this Entertainment System of Sonys, and screwing peope over with backwards compatability issues isnt going to help... untill then the only hope for sony is
    a 300 dollar price tag console that is also backwards compatibal to the ps2 and has enough memory that the normal gamer wont fill it...

    only 10% of the population even has HD...
    No one cares about blue ray and no one ever will its not a selling point to Hardly anyone....Thats why to squeeze out the extra sales they need to market this to the people who like top of the line entertainment systems not just gamers... as the cheeper blueray player...

    to me DVD of anykind is outdated physical memory...
    I download all my HD content right to my DVR i havent bought a DVD in months let alone spent twice as much on an HDdvd or Blueray... and most people with a complete HD entertainment center would say the same thing.. and thats the Reason why HDdvd and blueray sales have been, and will always have small sales... combined total sales of all HDDVD and Blue ray titles is still less than the Titanic on DVD...

    Sad but true open your eyes dude.. im talking buisness not fanboyism...
    and to benefit me all 3 companies need to do well.. the more supply and demand the lower prices are for everything and that benefits me... no one needs to crticise
    The Wii when its in First place... people should be looking at what the loosing brands are doing wrong and try to fix that...
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    Some of you guys are seriously so full of shit that its showing.

    Two of the big paragraphs in this article are completely true and has been bought up in these forums countless times. ONLINE, Wii's online fukkin sucks. If you think its all great then you have little or no experience with 360, PS3 and PC. Nintendo gives the appearance of true online when they advertise "Wi-fi" so much, its true it has wi-fi it has online games, but the library is so small right now that you might as well not advertise anything.

    Substance over Novelty, this one has been even more talked about on these forums. Nintendo is the only developer to make more serious games that are actually good while other developers make nothing but mini-game trash or very low quality games. Yet you guys are bash the guy for saying it in a article? Its true that the Wii attracted people because of the new controls and style of play. Of course price was a big factor too, but with all those commercials of Wii players looking all happy and playing their Wii's that also had a big impact. The fact is, so far Wii has more stupid crap games than they do actual quality games.

    Periphials, now this one is not entirely true. I dont think people will get tired of the Wii's controls, BUT... That doesn't mean it makes them special forever. Once you get used to it, the Wii's controls are nothing special... Especially when the best aspect of point and click is barely used.

    So its true, he even admits that Wii will still sell, but for it to sustain itself as truley a console instead of just a fall back console for people to play when they get bored. So far, with the small library of Wii games, and the pathetic online, thats what it is for me. Its forcing me to put my Wii away and wait for something worth buying.

    So stop being such fanboys and admit the flaws in your console, I admit the flaws in every console I own because im not blind and stupid. I really think most Wii owners are envious of people who own PS3/360 because the FACT (not opinion, you can check metacritic for this) is that they have better overall games. Well, PS3 is a little behind but it WILL pick up 2008. Be real, sales mean nothing when most people who bought the Wii were parents for their kids/family. Who I might add, most of them know almost nothing about games, so what is there to gloat about?
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    Storage Expandability: For Downloaded VC Games, saves, miis, other content, etc.


    More Online Multiplayer: Engage users around the world in online play.



    More Titles(including VC): They don't have to be "Wii-enhanced" but they can have the option of using the regular controller. For example the Madden Series is a nightmare for the Wii. You are forced to use the wiimote and the graphics and options are subpar.


    Better Graphics: For the next gen at least include the option for High Def and above 640x480 graphics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vjmeht
    Storage Expandability: For Downloaded VC Games, saves, miis, other content, etc.


    More Online Multiplayer: Engage users around the world in online play.



    More Titles(including VC): They don't have to be "Wii-enhanced" but they can have the option of using the regular controller. For example the Madden Series is a nightmare for the Wii. You are forced to use the wiimote and the graphics and options are subpar.


    Better Graphics: For the next gen at least include the option for High Def and above 640x480 graphics.
    End of thread. This guy hit the nail on the head A++



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    Quote Originally Posted by T3kNi9e
    Some of you guys are seriously so full of shit that its showing.

    Two of the big paragraphs in this article are completely true and has been bought up in these forums countless times. ONLINE, Wii's online fukkin sucks. If you think its all great then you have little or no experience with 360, PS3 and PC. Nintendo gives the appearance of true online when they advertise "Wi-fi" so much, its true it has wi-fi it has online games, but the library is so small right now that you might as well not advertise anything.

    Substance over Novelty, this one has been even more talked about on these forums. Nintendo is the only developer to make more serious games that are actually good while other developers make nothing but mini-game trash or very low quality games. Yet you guys are bash the guy for saying it in a article? Its true that the Wii attracted people because of the new controls and style of play. Of course price was a big factor too, but with all those commercials of Wii players looking all happy and playing their Wii's that also had a big impact. The fact is, so far Wii has more stupid crap games than they do actual quality games.

    Periphials, now this one is not entirely true. I dont think people will get tired of the Wii's controls, BUT... That doesn't mean it makes them special forever. Once you get used to it, the Wii's controls are nothing special... Especially when the best aspect of point and click is barely used.

    So its true, he even admits that Wii will still sell, but for it to sustain itself as truley a console instead of just a fall back console for people to play when they get bored. So far, with the small library of Wii games, and the pathetic online, thats what it is for me. Its forcing me to put my Wii away and wait for something worth buying.

    So stop being such fanboys and admit the flaws in your console, I admit the flaws in every console I own because im not blind and stupid. I really think most Wii owners are envious of people who own PS3/360 because the FACT (not opinion, you can check metacritic for this) is that they have better overall games. Well, PS3 is a little behind but it WILL pick up 2008. Be real, sales mean nothing when most people who bought the Wii were parents for their kids/family. Who I might add, most of them know almost nothing about games, so what is there to gloat about?
    As always (well, most of the time) T3k hits the nail on the head.

    I love my Wii, but man does it have some shortcomings. Online, being the GLARING one.

    I also have had a 360 since launch and love it as well.

    I like both my machines for different reasons. But I am certainly not blind to see that the Wii could improve in SO many areas. Luckily, most can be fixed on current systems. More online games, the ability to play VC games off SD cards, etc.

    Seriously folks, admitting the Wii could use some improvement and has flaws is NOT admitting its a bad console or you made a poor choice in purchasing it.
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    Please your just being a reverse Fanboy... getting upset and saying anything to deflect something you dont like

    of course there online isnt the best specially compared to Xbox the veteran of online gaming, but with that you have to pay a price for Xbox live...

    But we can go on and on about the strong and weak points of each system...

    none of them are the best, outdoing another in every way... they are each good at there own little corner of the market... that will probably not change for a while

    what im getting sick of is seeing nothing but articles on Wii the current standing leader in the gaming world... you can call it fanboysim all you want.

    i think is stupid that the "hardcore xbox/ps3" critics and gamers alike are still pointing fingers at the Wii and how its different from there superior system, instead of pointing fingers at themself and there own console and what they need to do to keep pace with the wii...
    i for one love the wii, but and disapointed with the graphics mainly... but you know what if xbox and ps3 doesnt show that its an equally important part of sales, then nintendo might skimp out on graphics again with the next gen... and thats something i dont want...

    So why not figure out what we need to do to fix this? because i for one would like next gen consoles to incoporate the best that all of them have to offer,
    and not have to pick and choose games and consoles yet again to get a good variety of good games...
    Last edited by wezeles; 01-10-2008 at 12:54 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wezeles
    Totally dude im sorry...lol shut up

    i dont hate the PS3 ive said in many post its one of the most top of the line systems made.... but thats also the reason its in last place and will stay there without some brilliant marketing and price cuts.... if anything what they are telling the Wii to do is what PS3 needs to do...

    The wii has more Peripherals than any of them... wii fit will be hitting everyware soon, aswell as all the popular 3rd party peripherals, they are trying to rush out a rockband for the wii now cause they had no clue of its popularity untill it was too late...

    PS3 on the other hand offers little extra For the money you spend.. you can get the same games on a 360 with better online play.. and a way better price

    Sony needs needs needs to come out with this crazy new eye toy thats all there is too it, they say its recognition software will put game play at levels close to the Wii's... once i see that with more than a couple games ill go buy a ps3 myself...

    Ive also said they need to remarket the PS3 twards the entire family not just the gamers... to the Dads for Blue Ray and there HD videos, As a Game console for the kids, and if you get eyetoy it might be interactive enough mom will even play... but Sony still thinks it dominated with "hardcore fans" When the fact is sony had more casual gamers than any of the other 2 consoles with ps2... and now they are loosing these gamers over to the Wii...

    untill then its only the devoted fan base "fanboys" that are willing to shell out the cash for this Entertainment System of Sonys, and screwing peope over with backwards compatability issues isnt going to help... untill then the only hope for sony is
    a 300 dollar price tag console that is also backwards compatibal to the ps2 and has enough memory that the normal gamer wont fill it...

    only 10% of the population even has HD...
    No one cares about blue ray and no one ever will its not a selling point to Hardly anyone....Thats why to squeeze out the extra sales they need to market this to the people who like top of the line entertainment systems not just gamers... as the cheeper blueray player...

    to me DVD of anykind is outdated physical memory...
    I download all my HD content right to my DVR i havent bought a DVD in months let alone spent twice as much on an HDdvd or Blueray... and most people with a complete HD entertainment center would say the same thing.. and thats the Reason why HDdvd and blueray sales have been, and will always have small sales... combined total sales of all HDDVD and Blue ray titles is still less than the Titanic on DVD...

    Sad but true open your eyes dude.. im talking buisness not fanboyism...
    and to benefit me all 3 companies need to do well.. the more supply and demand the lower prices are for everything and that benefits me... no one needs to crticise
    The Wii when its in First place... people should be looking at what the loosing brands are doing wrong and try to fix that...
    The reason why you can make these arguments is because of Wii's sales. If the wii was 10 million would everyone still think that the PS3 is doing horrible. The PS3 had a good first year.


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    I agree. I don't dislike the wii for it's shortcomings. Right now all I hear from people is that it's not a 'primary' console. Meaning that people buy the wii in addition to having an XBOX or PS3. That makes sense to me only because of the number of titles and graphic bottleneck that the wii suffers from.

    I really don't see the whole Wii vs Xbox/PS3 debate. The real battle is between XBOX and PS3 because both are comparable. The wii is a different animal entirely. While it lacks in GFX it surpasses in gameplay and interactivity.

    I wonder if Nintendo will ever "GASP" merge with MSOFT. And either sell two different systems or consolidate into some sort of super xbox. I mean both companies are here in Redmond. I don't really think they are as aggressive to each other as most may think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wezeles
    Please your just being a reverse Fanboy... getting upset and saying anything to deflect something you dont like

    of course there online isnt the best specially compared to Xbox the veteran of online gaming, but with that you have to pay a price for Xbox live...

    But we can go on and on about the strong and weak points of each system...

    none of them are the best, outdoing another in every way... they are each good at there own little corner of the market... that will probably not change for a while

    what im getting sick of is seeing nothing but articles on Wii the current standing leader in the gaming world... you can call it fanboysim all you want.

    i think is stupid that the "hardcore xbox/ps3" critics and gamers alike are still pointing fingers at the Wii and how its different from there superior system, instead of pointing fingers at themself and there own console and what they need to do to keep pace with the wii...
    i for one love the wii, but and disapointed with the graphics mainly... but you know what if xbox and ps3 doesnt show that its an equally important part of sales, then nintendo might skimp out on graphics again with the next gen... and thats something i dont want...

    So why not figure out what we need to do to fix this? because i for one would like next gen consoles to incoporate the best that all of them have to offer,
    and not have to pick and choose games and consoles yet again to get a good variety of good games...
    Don't you think the reason that you sit so many articles about the Wii is because this is a Wii forum? Trust me when I say I see plenty of articles talking about the flaws for Xbox. Before it was about the hardware failures of Xbox which still haunts me since I still own the old version of Xbox which luckily hasn't messed up yet. Also I see plenty of complaints about lack of games for japanese gamers. Now days its been about the Xbox Live downtime since christmas. Apparently since christmas with the millions of new live users it has been creating problems on the servers which they are currently fixing. There has been ALOT of complaints. Where do I hear all this? On Xbox forums of course. So if your gonna hear/see complaints about Wii, its a good chance you will find it here because people will see it and post it. Chances are a Xbox player will not post this article in a Xbox forums since they dont play the Wii.
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