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    top 3 things the wii needs to survive!

    Jeremy Bergen

    If Sony’s Jack Tretton is to be believed, the next-generation consoles have roughly 8 years left in their respective life cycles (let the baseball analogies begin). While the Nintendo Wii experienced tremendous early success with its innovative gameplay and family friendly titles, it is yet to be seen if the console can stand up to the test of time. One thing is for certain, time is surely not going to treat the technologically inferior Wii as well as its beefier cousins. If this was a three way baseball game, right now the score might look like Wii – 4, Xbox – 2, and PS3 – 1 at the top of the 2nd inning. Here are 3 things the Wii needs to do to survive the ballgame.

    Peripherals, Peripherals, Peripherals

    Nothing will energize the Wii over its lifecycle like new (quality) innovative peripherals. Gamers will only be content waggling their Wiimotes for so long. In order for the Wii to sustain its momentum, Nintendo needs to continually release external gaming hardware that add interactivity into games. Gamers were drawn in by the Wiimote; they will stay because of other devices. Nintendo seemed to have already recognized this with “Wii Fit.” However, the Wii Fit’s unveiling at E3 ’07 was awkward to say the least. It is yet to be determined if the Wii Fit board will be a true innovation to gaming or a mere novelty. The peripherals will have to be integrated into gaming experiences instead of having games created solely to use the peripheral. Imagine playing a future Metroid game where movement is controlled by leaning in different directions on the Wii Fit board and shooting is controlled by the Wiimote. If the Wii wants to stay relevant through its lifecycle, Nintendo must make up for what it lacks in graphical capability with innovation in gaming.

    Online Gaming
    Gamers are no longer just content to play solo campaigns or with a friend in their own living room. Online gaming has become an integral part of gaming for the past five years, and its importance will only increase with time. Nintendo has attempted to make consumers believe that it already incorporates online gaming, but in truth, online gaming is all but absent on the Wii. If Nintendo is serious about incorporating online gaming, their first step must be to create some sort of gaming “channel” where users can log on and connect with friends worldwide. The Wii already has avatars for gamers. How difficult would it be to create a syrupy Nintendofied version of PS3’s home incorporating Miis? Wii Shop must also incorporate free downloadable demos of upcoming releases, and for the love of Princess Peach, the friend codes need to be ditched completely. Voice capability must be integrated into the online service as well. After all, half of the fun of multiplayer gaming is the ability to talk to other players. Will gamers ever be able to hook up with a friend across the globe for some retro Double Dragon action? It’s up to Nintendo to decide.

    Substance over Novelty
    Without a doubt, the novelty of the Wii has been its main attraction. Many consumers have purchased a Wii “just to see how it works.” Parents were intrigued by a video game console that got their kids off the couch and flying around the living room. While novelty may draw initial interest, substance sustains interest. This means Nintendo must continue to release quality titles that integrate motion experience instead of just exploiting it. Collections of mini-games are fun diversions, but rarely sustain long term interest. The main problem with mere novelty gaming is that once a user plays the game once, the novelty is gone. Nintendo has already made some missteps in this area. The Wii’s catalogue is already chocked full of pointless mediocre games with shoddy motion control. Also, from the Forecast channel to Everybody Votes, Nintendo’s previously released “channels” have been nothing more than shiny trinkets. They are fun to look at for a minute, but get discarded almost immediately. Nintendo must release additional channels that provide content that sustains interest. Both Nintendo and 3rd party developers will need to step up to the plate in the upcoming years to provide quality engaging titles that keep the Wii from becoming the “other” system when gamers want a break from playing real games on their 360’s and PS3’s.

    While Nintendo has certainly earned its right to puff out its chest and gloat a little, the “game” is far from over. 2008 is certain to set the tone for the years to come for the Wii. With the PS3 seemingly finding its feet and the 360 still going strong, Nintendo must fight to stay relevant in a rapidly changing gaming world. The Wii must maximize its strengths of innovation and unique gameplay to overcome its glaring technological shortcomings. Whether console lifecycles are nine inning ballgames is up to debate, but what Mr. Tretton is right about is that it is still early in the ballgame, and the Wii still has much to prove.

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    Ahh another ps3 fanboy that thinks they still have a chance with a 10 year console... does anyone believe the PS3 will last 10 years? even anyone at sony? out of all of them i think sony has the shortest life span of all...

    unless they come out with something killer, like the crazy interactiveness of the eye toy they promised and fast... sony might as well throw in the towl for the next 9 years because the only thing they will dominate is last place...

    You know Nintendo and Microsoft are both working on crazy killer systems right now with the all the new stuff that has hit the gaming market... It might even hit us sooner than the 5 year cycle we are use to...

    Sony just has to admit it was a Bad move on there part to have such a Crazy advanced and expensive console, and to force Blue ray with it... they will survive though they are a huge company and have a decent enough "hardcore base" that they might even break even after selling the ps3 below cost...

    They have had this type of stuff happen to Sony in the past: see mini disk...
    and to Nintendo aswell: see virtual boy..

    but you gotta get messy and make mistakes once in a while to make progress, they just need to admit they messed up, fix the problem and move on...

    if they keep thinking they are king and that everyone will come crawling back they are just going to end up loosing there gaming market all together... and that would be a shame for all of us...
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    ok for one thing u say how long will people be content waggling their wii remotes?
    how long will be people be content with sitting on the couch pressing buttons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zap'em up
    ok for one thing u say how long will people be content waggling their wii remotes?
    how long will be people be content with sitting on the couch pressing buttons?
    ok i didn't write the artics. my name is jesse as you can see at the top that is not the name.i just found this article on a site and posted it here for u all to read.

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    lol ohh well then whoever wrote it i disagree on that part becuz people can get sick of anything.
    nd its true though we need better online

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    That article drips with contempt, it's hard to read it without sencing it; even though I agree with some of it's points.

    The wii will live or die by the quality of third party support, which is lousy because of the conteptible attitudes expressed in that article. Nothing ain't gonna change untill they start thinking of the wii as a vaible gaming console, actualy WORTHY of their support.

    The irony of this article is that it's one of many, predicting the downfall of the wii because of it's noveltiy and techenical inferiority, compared to the PS3and 360, but it is these same people that need to make decent games for it for it to be taken seriously. (What I mean is the games industry as a whole, including the press and developers, ect.) It is a catch 22 situation.

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    As I saw somewhere else, the Wii was meant to be a fad. It is a fad. But its not just a fad, its one of the most innovative things out there. And fun too, and it can even be hardcore at moments, like metroid prime and resident evil. So they got the Wii sold as a fad, now their gonna build on to it like crazy and launch the Wii into success.



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    I'm sorry the VC line up is way more hardcore than the games on the HD consoles, hey but thats me get to the 5 level of super ghouls and ghost and you'll see what I mean. The whole HD thing is getting boring really fast to me and there are no games I want on those systems so far. It just reminds me of what an empty shell the PC industry is. It's weird but I'm getting the same feeling with these HD systems even though the fan boy fight to the death about their system. You know the Ati and nvidia boys did the same and look how many games they got out of it. The whole FPS thing is silly because I only really play them on PC BC of the controls. Price is straggling the HD consoles and I'm not sure if they can fix that... since HDtvs cost so much... so it seems things will only get worst.....

    Maybe I'll just buy one just to force my self to like those games more. Hell I would be happy with a 3d version of double dragon 2 on the nes. Upper cutting bad guys into ceiling spikes was a blast!

    So far the only thing people are getting right is online play.... The stories aren't getting any better yet, Ai still sucks and I'm totally in a un-addicted state when playing these games. Hell I keep feeling like what is the point? I'm a skilled gamer so make it's different for every one else but I like my games crazy hard and action packed or either full of strategy. Yet I've heard war hawk was good...


    I may be getting a xbox or PS3 just to test some stuff in Ut3. Thats about it unless I can find some thing that actually sucks me into the game. I guess it's the feeling of socom being applied to the whole catalog. i know every thing is not a FPS yet realism is getting boring already.

    Rant over-

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    we all no 90% of this artcal is false
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiitnessID
    I'm sorry the VC line up is way more hardcore than the games on the HD consoles, hey but thats me get to the 5 level of super ghouls and ghost and you'll see what I mean. The whole HD thing is getting boring really fast to me and there are no games I want on those systems so far. It just reminds me of what an empty shell the PC industry is. It's weird but I'm getting the same feeling with these HD systems even though the fan boy fight to the death about their system. You know the Ati and nvidia boys did the same and look how many games they got out of it. The whole FPS thing is silly because I only really play them on PC BC of the controls. Price is straggling the HD consoles and I'm not sure if they can fix that... since HDtvs cost so much... so it seems things will only get worst.....

    Maybe I'll just buy one just to force my self to like those games more. Hell I would be happy with a 3d version of double dragon 2 on the nes. Upper cutting bad guys into ceiling spikes was a blast!

    So far the only thing people are getting right is online play.... The stories aren't getting any better yet, Ai still sucks and I'm totally in a un-addicted state when playing these games. Hell I keep feeling like what is the point? I'm a skilled gamer so make it's different for every one else but I like my games crazy hard and action packed or either full of strategy. Yet I've heard war hawk was good...


    I may be getting a xbox or PS3 just to test some stuff in Ut3. Thats about it unless I can find some thing that actually sucks me into the game. I guess it's the feeling of socom being applied to the whole catalog. i know every thing is not a FPS yet realism is getting boring already.

    Rant over-
    1.) Hmmm..so Halo 3, Mass Effect, Rainbow Six Vegas, Call of Duty 4, Uncharted, The Orange Box, Gears of War, Warhawk, BioShock, GRAW, Ratchet and Clank Future, Oblivion and the many other top tier games out there aren't good enough to interest you?

    2.) What is price "straggling". The PS3 is rediculously expensive, but the lowest end 360 is $279- thats only $30 more than wii if you are doing the math.

    3.) HD TV's are really inexpensive right now. You can buy a pretty nice LCD for under $500 if you look hard enough, and you can buy a 40"+ LCD or plasma right now for about $1000. The prices are only going lower.

    4.) If you think the AI sucks on the ps3/360 games, then you obviously have not played Rainbow Six Vegas, COD4, Mass Effect, or Halo 3--all these games have been accalimed for how good the AI is. Halo 3 actually won an award for best enemy AI ever from EGM at e3.

    If you actually played any of the games I've mentioned so far, you'd be addicted--just play COD4 online once, or even Mass Effect.

    5.) With games like Mass Effect and Gears of War out there I do not understand how you think the HD systems do not have games that are not action packed, or strategic enough for you. Go play COD4 and tell me that that's not action packed.


    On topic- the Wii is a novelty device, Nintendo has marketed it as a novelty device, it will continue to sell like gangbusters no matter what because it is a novely (my 60 year old parents have one and play it every night), it will never be a hardcore gaming system (if you want that, you probably already own a ps3/360), and more periferals is a terrible idea (newsflash, people do not want a ton of periferals taking up space).

    Everyone just needs to relax- the wii will do just fine, and expect to be playing it for a good long time. If you want third party support, hardcore games, online functionality, then go buy an xbox 360- that's what I did. You can buy both that and a wii for the price of a ps3--problem solved.
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