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    I agree that would have to be a big check to buy the soul of Nintendo for anyone else.

    And with the dedication you see at Nintendo I doubt it would ever happen, it would have to take some crazy situation to get over 50% of share holders to ever give up the company. Dreams of them even merging with anyone seems slim. They always seem to pull out and do well, why mess with long dated sucess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MirakTheLa
    Microsoft is saying Nintendo will flop because they're trying to make people believe its the truth.

    I'd say whats more likely to happen is that Microsoft will buy Nintendo, thereby ruining all gaming experience known to man.

    No way in hell this will happen. MS will continue to buy nintendo's 2nd parties or 1st parties if they can. Then they will just kill them off one by one like they did with square. LOL

    Seriously the Wii is about fun as the main addiction. I'm not sure how much fun people are having on live if all they do is curse and talk smack. I don't remember people fighting each other at a celebration or cursing people out when some great game just ended.

    If MS understood the game industry more they could easily take over yet they don't. Gaming grew unchecked in it's popularity by way of countless words from the mouths of fans the same way that the grown ups feel in love with the Wii. This is the same way old schooler feeling in love with sega and nintendo. The mags only gave us our screen shots and even if said games was suppose to suck we played it maybe because we liked it?

    What is funny is the xbox has the tools to win but it does not have the creativity to build upon the legacy of console games. Things are looking a lot like PC gaming to me which is a turn off as I already have a PC and even wing commander was great back in the day I still wanted to play super contra more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterjedi
    The thing that everyone seems to be forgetting is that all gamers start out as young children. Your average 5 year old is not playing Halo 3. Your average 5 year old is playing pong.

    Then you get to your young adult years and you get the super complicated games that are easy for them to pick up because the only things they have to concern themselves with are school and video games. Think about it; from middle school through maybe junior year, a child goes to school, and eats at home. They have no other responsibilities and their parents are working a lot so they have nothing else to do but play video games.

    Then these young adults graduate and move on to college or the working world and they still have no responsibilities except school/work and eating/sleeping. So what do they do? Play video games. It doesn't matter that the game is super complicated because they have plenty of time to learn all the ins and outs of the game.

    It's when you have a family that your video game time really gets cut down. You have to give your spouse time, and your children take up a LOT of your time. Now all of a sudden, Halo 3 with it's 13 button combination is waaay too much for you to invest time in. You're not a casual gamer, you're now a gamer with less time to game. Zelda is no less hardcore than Halo, but Zelda is much easier to pick up and play than Halo is.

    Nintendo didn't find a new breed of gamer, they've just continued to cater to ALL gamers as opposed to gamers in the 12-25 year old range.

    Reading your post made me realize something. The people being called "casual" gamers, (with all the negative connotations attached to it) are merely, gamers who have grown up, moved on and now have LIVES! Lives and responsibilities that teenagers and young people don't have as of yet. These ones don't have the TIME needed to play a complicated video game like they used to. They realize there are things more important than gaming when they now have financail responsibilties to their families and work. Now if these ones still play, they are gonna look for something that's fun and easy-pick-up-and-play, than leave it to take care of the more important things, like caring for their children, ext.

    What Nintendo did was brillaint. They realized this fact about gamers, looking at the normal life cycle of gamers, and made something to draw these ones back to gaming, where as, there was nothing in gaming that could fit into thier buisy lives, Nintendo sought to make something that could fill this need, when no one else even though of it. And THAT is why the wii is selling like candy.

    The irony of this is that the word "casual" has been connected to new and inexperienced players, but a LOT of them are old school gamers that grew up, moved on or those that lost interest in gaming. (virtule console anyone?) Nintendo sought to market the wii to a larger audance than just to the narrow band of males 12 to 25. That is to ALL potential players and I think it is paying off.

    The people who express contempt for the "casual" gamer as ignorent and stupid are ignorent thenselves for not realizing this fact.

    Let the naysayers talk their crap; the proof will be in the pudding.


    Quote Originally Posted by WiitnessID
    No way in hell this will happen. MS will continue to buy nintendo's 2nd parties or 1st parties if they can. Then they will just kill them off one by one like they did with square. LOL

    Seriously the Wii is about fun as the main addiction. I'm not sure how much fun people are having on live if all they do is curse and talk smack. I don't remember people fighting each other at a celebration or cursing people out when some great game just ended.

    If MS understood the game industry more they could easily take over yet they don't. Gaming grew unchecked in it's popularity by way of countless words from the mouths of fans the same way that the grown ups feel in love with the Wii. This is the same way old schooler feeling in love with sega and nintendo. The mags only gave us our screen shots and even if said games was suppose to suck we played it maybe because we liked it?

    What is funny is the xbox has the tools to win but it does not have the creativity to build upon the legacy of console games. Things are looking a lot like PC gaming to me which is a turn off as I already have a PC and even wing commander was great back in the day I still wanted to play super contra more.
    I noticed this pattern too with the others, they are becoming more and more pc like, even with games being made for all three machines. I don't know if this is good or bad at the moment, I just wanted to note that I see this trend also.
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    If thats the case, the PS3/Xbox 360 never had a 'bubble' to start with.

    At least Wii has one.

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    Just to put it out there for those that responded to what I said: Don't every be surprised with mega-corporations buy out major corporations. C.E.O.s have no soul to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MirakTheLa
    Just to put it out there for those that responded to what I said: Don't every be surprised with mega-corporations buy out major corporations. C.E.O.s have no soul to sell.
    You're right, but In Nentendo's case, I do not see that happening. They'ed rather throw in the towel than sell out. There just something about then that tell me they wouldn't do it.

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    ya but the CEO's arnt usually the ones with a say in the sale of the comapny its alwyas the stockholders that have to vote in the end, not many stock holders leave all of there money decisions with the CEO they bring in.

    With a company like Nintendo, or Sony, or Microsoft a lot of majority stock investors look at it as a lifetime investment, something they can live off the dividends and retire on. They care if the company does well or bad but with such a large company it would have to be doing really horribal for a long time and the check would have to be really big to just throw away years of investment on a whim.

    If you have some kind of collectable you would probably get the concept. You invest your time and money into collecting all this stuff, you now have a set worth in your mind what you have collected, someone offers you what you invested you wont bother taking that much, you would have wasted your time and money to just break even.
    Someone offers less than your overall investment you laugh at them you took the burden why should you take the cut?
    They would have to offer you almost a rediculous amount of money to make up for your time and effort of building and keeping the collection in order, you would rather keep it than "throw" it away even if you are hurting for money at the time.

    That why with large companys more often then not you will see mergers and not straight up sales of a company. Barely anyone can afford the crazy amount they will ask even if they are hurting finacially and to invest more than its worth is just bad buisness. So they settle on joining forces if they are in finacial burden 9 times outta 10 or go straight up brankrupt being stubborn.

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    This thing has been posted before.


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