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    Quote Originally Posted by MaXiMiUS
    Vagrant: for somebody who's been involved in emulation for 10 years, you really don't seem to know jack about why the requirements are high in comparison to the original systems. Why not try reading what I've said several times already?

    Honestly. Shaders? ...
    Or you just have no idea wtf you are talking about.

    Because it is not that easy to emulate to a PC something that uses piplines and tps as high as the Wii does.

    ...I have one that works... Only with some games though.
    Being able to load brain quiz is hardly what I would consider a working emulator.

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    I updated my last post with some more detail, read this vagrant; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulator#CPU_simulator
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaXiMiUS
    I updated my last post with some more detail, read this vagrant; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulator#CPU_simulator
    Yes, I know how to use wikipedia. What is your point?

    This thread is about some guy claiming he has emulated the Wii and gotten WiiSports to load.

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    My point was that you were claiming an array of systems were "not really possible" to emulate, and when I disagreed, you continued to state that.

    Why not read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emulators ?

    "PS2 - Emulation not really possible
    Dreamcast - Emulation not really possible
    Gamecube - Emulation not really possible
    Xbox - Emulation not really possible
    DS - Not possible
    This Generation - Not really possible."

    PS2 emulation is possible, and is being worked on, several games are even playable (60FPS).
    Gamecube emulation is possible, but you need to have an extremely high end computer to get any decent FPS out of it.
    Dreamcast emulation is possible, I even have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chankast running on my computer.
    Xbox emulation is possible, but not being worked on. Halo and Turok are the only games that went anywhere though, in terms of emulation.
    I never even considered DS emulation, so I won't comment on that.
    This generation? Sure, it will probably be possible. But think about it, a Dreamcast emulator requires around a 2GHz processor to run at a decent speed, and it had a 200MHz CPU. So we're talking 7-8GHz for a Wii emulator, and, well, close to 100GHz for an Xbox 360 or PS3 emulator. But you never know.
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    MHz and GHz umm no...

    there's much more to it


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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenNevets
    MHz and GHz umm no...

    there's much more to it
    It's called oversimplifying. Do you want me to go into a page long rant or something? I will if everybody here is a programmer and doesn't mind.
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    Yes, I know of many emulators also. That doesn't mean they are fully functional.

    And I already explained on the first page what I meant by "not really possible" you just insist on misinterpreting for the sake of trying to argue something to sound smart.

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    The reason emulation will work slower on an equal or greater PC is due to the differences in CPUs.

    Firstly, the GC/Wii use a RISC (Reduced Instruction Set) chip, which, in layman's terms, means that it'll perform a lot better at a low mhz than an x86 chip.

    Secondly, these are different chip architectures, so underneath all of the "meat and potatoes" emulation, the PC also needs to emulate the chip that everything runs on top of. This extra bagage slows things down considerably.

    Also worth bearing in mind: These chips are optimised for one task, and one task only: Playing games. The Dreamcast was capable of displaying some amazing graphics at a fairly nippy pace, but when I tried to cross compile some linux source code on it, it was about as fast as an old P-166 box I have - on the same note, you're taking the code from a cpu that's optimised for gaming and running it on a cpu that isn't particularly optimised for gaming, and taking a large performance hit through that also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisisgil
    The reason emulation will work slower on an equal or greater PC is due to the differences in CPUs.

    Firstly, the GC/Wii use a RISC (Reduced Instruction Set) chip, which, in layman's terms, means that it'll perform a lot better at a low mhz than an x86 chip.

    Secondly, these are different chip architectures, so underneath all of the "meat and potatoes" emulation, the PC also needs to emulate the chip that everything runs on top of. This extra bagage slows things down considerably.

    Also worth bearing in mind: These chips are optimised for one task, and one task only: Playing games. The Dreamcast was capable of displaying some amazing graphics at a fairly nippy pace, but when I tried to cross compile some linux source code on it, it was about as fast as an old P-166 box I have - on the same note, you're taking the code from a cpu that's optimised for gaming and running it on a cpu that isn't particularly optimised for gaming, and taking a large performance hit through that also.
    that was a very informative and well crafted comment. I learned a lot. It was so much better than
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    I think your lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vagrant
    Or you just have no idea wtf you are talking about.
    pathetic attempts at persuading the masses. vagrant die please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaXiMiUS
    There's a difference between possible and 'excessive hardware requirements'.

    Dolphin emulates the Gamecube fairly well, it just requires an incredibly powerful computer to get any reasonable FPS out of it. I saw a video of somebody with a $5000 computer running RE4 on their PC with Dolphin at about 37FPS. It's only a matter of time.
    yup. the only emulators that run good are dreamcast and ps2.

    gamecube emu is slow, so I highly doubt the Wii emu will work at a decent speed, and it hasn't been out long, no developer can make a stable emulator that fast, anndddd... there is no proof of being able to ISO a Wii DVD.

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