... And you really think thats the worst of problems in the third world? I admit it is bad but look at what else is going down in the third world: mass murder, corruption, lack of proper resources and education. Problems in the world reach much further than that my friend.Originally Posted by NateTheGreat
Confidence issues? I disagree. Some just love the attention. Need to feel wanted? wouldn't that involve taking things a step further and actually sleeping with them? I would think so but I dont know how many actually would.. None I hope because I do agree with you that there are probably alot of really seedy old dudes hangin around at places like that (Hell I get enough old dirtbag men comin thru at the supermarket I work at; Before I cut my long hair off I had my back to the till and some old dude rocked up with his trolley, when I turn around he sees I'm really a guy and quickly dashes to the girl working opposite me = SEEDY ). Unfortunately that is the kind of place the world is today. We no longer live in the wholesome era of the 40's and 50's. The world as it was is a far cry from todays world; riddled with sex, drugs, violence and crime.Originally Posted by NateTheGreat
What makes you so sure I dont have a real girlfriend? I just might. Well I would if she didn't live 3 hours away Do you have a girlfriend Nate? Its wrong to make generalisations, although there probably are a few that get off on it, I find its more just humerous to see, especially the voice actors for such characters (I'm pretty sure the p*rn star in Vice City was voiced by Jenna Jameson) usually put a humerous spin on things.
I'm not sure what kind of personal background you have on this issue, nor the social context from which you back this view, but you sound like you live in a very religious community, of what religion I am not sure.Originally Posted by NateTheGreat
I can assure you I am all too familiar with unwanted pregnancies. Its a huge problem with the indidginous population here (as most of them in question use pregnancy as a means to the government "baby bonus" cash and further social security) and if that wasn't bad enough just about every West Australian would have heard of the Hall's Creek, a mostly indidginous community where children as young as 6 months are treated for STDs. Its a sick, sick place.
Are you implying I'm one of the assholes? I dont believe I am. I'm all for keeping it safe and I wouldn't try to do anything which could jeopardise that. Spreads AIDS? I dont know where you live but AIDS is almost non existant here (minus some from the few visitors to South Africa, no racist intended ). Stealing? Drugs? those come from a bad upbringing man, not because of inflation, STDs and liberal attitudes towards sex. Basically, my motto is its okay as long as no ones getting hurt. If its something you enjoy, and you're not hurting anyone, including yourself doing it, then do it.
Appealing? Why would you fight for this issue so fervently? Who cares, real t*ts, polygonal t*ts who cares, it might not be real but that doesn't mean it can't look good. I'd almost believe it was you who is in denial about finding this sort of thing appealing. Did you not play God of War? That game had gratuitous toplessness, sexual references (anyone with even the blandest imagination could have worked out what was going on in that bed on the ship) and over the top gore, and its one of the most popular PS2 games to date. What's wrong with Nintendo having a game like this? Alot of girls I know find sexual elements in games amusing, and if they can take these sort of issues so light heartedly, why can't we? Hell, straight girls I know gawk over some of the girls from Soul Calibre.Originally Posted by NateTheGreat
I don't believe I stated that all games need sex to be good. Infact some of the best games ever didn't even come close to having anything remotely sexual in them (unless you're turned on by an impaled, twitching corpse on a pike or a chained body blown in half over a pentagram) like the old DOOM games.Originally Posted by NateTheGreat
In case you didn't play GTA: Vice City it came pretty damn close to having nudity in it. The waitress at the bar was topless with only small tassel-thingies covering her n*pples. Additionally you could visit the strip club and get a private dance in a room. While the girl was clothed (barely) the dance didn't leave much to the imagination.
I'm all for more mature material, but I don't believe a bit of nudity here and there warrants such an uproar from the gaming community, does it really matter that much? I know the politicians think so but we're smarter than that, and they obviously don't have any respect for the gaming demographic. As for a girlfriend, I dont think that would change anything man, what you like and what you don't wont suddenly change or go away just because you're with a girl (if your values are that weak you're probably the kind who would change everything about themself just to make themselves appear more attractive to the girl, even moreso, abandom gaming cuz she doesn't like it *shock*).
Damn.. its been one helluvan argument. It's good to see this thread's still so active