Actually, I absolutely despise sony, I was just trying to prove a point that you guys are being WAY to one sided. The PS3's price gives you the most bang for its buck. For christ's sake it has a built in blue-ray player. Regardless of whether or not you support blue ray, that is freaking amazing that they pulled that off for 600 bucks. What are standalone blue ray players going for nowadays? $1000-$1500??