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    Well, it's decided. If I'm gettin' a new TV, I'm gettin' an LCD. Thanks for the facts, Teqguy! Can anyone suggest a site that I could buy an LCD TV or a store that sells them for not-so-much? xP

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    i am having this debate in my mind, im saving 400 dollars for the wii and a game and another controller, and im also wanting to get a new tv, becaus the buttons on the front of mine no longer work haha, i was looking at walmart here in my town and was supprised that the prices were as low as they were,....... i came to the conslussion that i dont want a plasma screen 1) they are hella expensive compared to the lcd, and 2) i have no need for it to be flat really... .... anyways the lcd's here are the prices as follows
    brand:ilo size:27 price:209.00 flat lcd
    brand:sanyo size:30 price:478.00 flat lcd hdtv
    brand:sanyo size:32 price:417.00 flat lcd sdtv

    i think im getting the third one :-p

    hope this helps at all

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    Nice job, teqguy. I was hoping someone really knowledgeble about this stuff would come along.

    I would say go with LCD then. It has a replaceable bulb whereas the plasma must be completly replaced, costing tons (although, by the time the LCD bulb needs replacing, it's probably time to get a new TV because prices will have gone down on newer, better, brighter, thinner displays). LCD also, as I said before, doesn't burn-in while plasma does, which is horrible if your planning on gaming on a plasma (to get rid of the burn-in, you must leave the plasma display on for an hour on "snow").
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    ok ignore what everybody has said about lcd's being better than plasmas and the shit about burn in.

    my brother left his tv on for about 8 hours straight on a non moving screen and it didn't get burn in

    plasmas have much darker black lines as well, some lcd's display blacks as gray

    what is your budget, and how big is your room

    i would recomend a budget 720p projector, or a 1080p dlp

    for sound i would get a HTIB, that doesn't come with a builtin dvd player and use that
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    Quote Originally Posted by teqguy
    Uh, actually, top of the line plasmas have been tested at a mere 30,000 hours(3 years constant, 8 at 10 hours TV viewing a day), whereas, LCD screens have a 60,000 hour minimum.

    Furthermore, when LCDs die, all that is necessary is a lamp replacement($100). When plasmas die, it's time to buy a new plasma.

    Do your homework before stating facts you can't back up.

    Sources:

    http://www.sharpusa.com/products/lcd...,2340,,00.html
    http://www.lcd-vs-plasma.com



    In addition, the only benefit that plasma has over any other display technology is higher contrast ratios, which is trivial when you're comparing a 10000:1 contrast ratio with 1024 x 1024 max resolution display with a 2000:1 contrast ratio with a 1920 x 1080 max resolution display.

    In the end, everything pales in comparison to resolution when shopping for a large screen display.

    EXCUSE ME! MR 'I KNOW EVERYTHING'
    Dont look down on others as if your better than they are.
    I know im right, look at it this way , I KNEW that you can use a lamp replacement, But i ALSO knew that LCD'S can only withstand a certain amoutn of hours, on which i WASNT wrong,
    But what i didnt know, the plasma screens had a certain amoutn of tiem to work aswell.

    Enoch was right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumoriken
    Well, it's decided. If I'm gettin' a new TV, I'm gettin' an LCD. Thanks for the facts, Teqguy! Can anyone suggest a site that I could buy an LCD TV or a store that sells them for not-so-much? xP
    I'd go to Newegg.com
    Go here to see their TV selection.

    They've got a big selection and I've used them on a couple things, they're a well known site, and they ship pretty fast. Also, go to PriceGrabber.com to compare a ton of site's prices on TVs.
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    When it comes to surround sound you can spend anything from 50 to thousands upon thousands. I use a small surround system that cost about 150 and it is very impressive for gaming. I also use surround sound headphones which i think are amazing. Really it depends what you are comparing to. If you are used to the sound system in a standard TV a basic surround sound system is likely to have much better quality. Your budget is the key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRMARIO
    EXCUSE ME! MR 'I KNOW EVERYTHING'
    Dont look down on others as if your better than they are.
    I know im right, look at it this way , I KNEW that you can use a lamp replacement, But i ALSO knew that LCD'S can only withstand a certain amoutn of hours, on which i WASNT wrong,
    But what i didnt know, the plasma screens had a certain amoutn of tiem to work aswell.
    The only thing you stated is that LCD displays have a short lifecycle, mentioning briefly that this is why plasmas are preferred over LCDs.

    However, as I just proved, it is in fact the other way around, voiding your remarks entirely.

    Quote Originally Posted by pizzaluvr
    i would recomend a budget 720p projector, or a 1080p dlp
    Both of those suggestions are horrible.

    For one, the only projectors that are capable of refresh rates necessary for gaming are either ones you build yourself from an LCD monitor or the needlessly expensive ones.

    Second, not only are 1080P LCD displays new and thus expensive, but they're completely useless for the Wii's humble resolution of 480P.

    Well, it's decided. If I'm gettin' a new TV, I'm gettin' an LCD. Thanks for the facts, Teqguy! Can anyone suggest a site that I could buy an LCD TV or a store that sells them for not-so-much?
    If I may restate, I wasn't exactly pro-LCD in the first place, I was simply proving to DRMARIO that plasma is not only severely outdated but is surpassed by every other display technology out there, on top of a million other downfalls I could mention about it.

    My original recommendation was that you might want to look into a CRT or rear projection HDTV, for fear that an LCD display with 1280x720 resolution might show its age too soon.

    However, now that I think about it, if your primary use for it is going to be playing the Wii, then you won't even reach that point until you try viewing something that is 1920 x 1080 native.

    Here are some recommendations when selecting an LCD TV:

    Stick to one that has less than or equal to 20ms refresh rate. Any higher and you might notice some ghosting when playing games with a lot of fast paced action.

    A 400 milicandescent (mc/d2) brightness competes with your average computer monitor, so anything better should not have to set you over more than $100 when coming to a decision between two displays.

    A 600:1 contrast ratio is perfect for any type of viewing, but an 800:1 is recommended for gameplay. Most of the time, there's no discernable difference between a 600:1 contrast ratio and a 1000:1 contrast ratio.

    It is better to go with a 1280 x 720 resolution, instead of the 1366 x 768, if you're intending to play content that is in 16:9 format, because 1280 x 720 is a native 16:9 format. With 1366 x 768, you either get banding(black bars) or slight distortion.

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    Ah, jesus. >_> Mmkay, one, lifespan isn't a problem. I'm moving into my new house in about a year and a half and I'm gonna have an HDTV in there.
    And I don't know all of this tech shit. All it's doing is confusing me. Put it in consumers terms. Like... Type, name, or whatever. Just something simple that makes sense.

    And I do have a 27" bulky Sony TV with kinda average picture, so would you reccomend just keeping it?


    Edit: Meh, I've re-read it. Still doesn't make much sense, but I'll try and keep all that in mind. I'm searching right now.

    And Teqguy, would this said LCD TV cost me less than $400?
    And if so, even at that price, should I wait a year or two for my HDTV?
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    As far as "tech shit" is concerned, I hate to be the bringer of bad news, but "tech shit" in this day and age is simply what seperates those who buy lemons from those who don't. If you aren't at least aware of what to pay attention to and what is mere fluff, you're going to end up paying premium for something that could be had for a lot less.

    At $400, you'd be looking at a 20" LCD display... so I wouldn't consider that worth it.

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