Graphics whores? It's a two-way street

[FRuMMaGe]

Just felt like writing a little post on the endless supply of Wii owners who take it on themselves to cling with such piousness to the notion that all games with good graphics inherently lack depth or fun game-play.

I refer you to the encapsulation of this in the following thread, aptly named "OMG This is so freakin annoying!"

http://www.wiichat.com/lounge/46117-...-annoying.html

Im so annoyed and I know this is the millionth thread about it but I just want to stress my point! My friend is anoyying now because all he cares about in a game is the graphics! Im so tired of graphics whores. They are so annoying I mean, these days its all about graphics! Where has the real fun gone? Listen to this retarded statement I heard from someone:

"Oh my god, Bioshock has the best graphics ever. It is like 1000x times better than Super Mario Galaxy. It totally deserves game of the year from X-play. Super Mario Galaxy would've never gotten it because the graphics on it suck."

Again, where has the real fun gone? I really want to stress my point:

As you can see, this person has probably never played Bioshock, but because it has amazing graphics they are making several (wrong) assumptions:
> The game is NOT fun to play.
> The game has poor controls and/or game-play.
> Everyone who likes the game is a "graphics-whore".

This is a very widespread state of mind across most of this forum and it really ticks me off when I hear amazing games such as Halo 3 and Bioshock having their great graphics used as a negative point.

I am sure I am not alone in this.

EDIT: Before some people start a barrage of poorly worded "ZOMG! U R T3H GR4FICKS HORE!" posts, I would like to stress that I enjoy my Wii more than my Xbox 360.

[Ads]

[Frogger]

Yeah, but like, the Wii's still better!

Well, I'm not one for venturing on other consoles, but the PS3 is in my house, so I just watch my cousins fail miserably at the Simpsons. But, even that has absolutely stunning graphics, the Wii's graphics do make me want to stab myself in the eyes, still, I prefer the console for a number of reasons.

See the problem is, it's a battle of opinions, and you're all too stubborn and bias.

[Sterculius]

i think rather than pointing the finger at one another making accusations (albeit pointless ones)...they need to realize they can't generalize anything. Not every game with good graphics is fun, not every game with poor graphics is fun. It's all about who has the time, skills and money to do one or the other or both.

Sure Mario Galaxy is no Crysis in terms of graphics, but it's fun as hell. But that doesn't automatically mean every game with poor graphics on the Wii is a winner. There's countless titles showing up in the discount bin for a reason, cuz they suck.

And conversely, just because a game has phenomenal graphics, doesn't mean the developers can't forge out good gameplay to go with it. There's God of War 2 (phenomal graphics for a last gen console), and Devil May Cry 4 on the way, and so on...

People need to grow up and realize each game is unique and there's absolutely no way to generalize and be correct all the time.

So ya, both sides need to stop.

[FRuMMaGe]

Yeah, but like, the Wii's still better!

Well, I'm not one for venturing on other consoles, but the PS3 is in my house, so I just watch my cousins fail miserably at the Simpsons. But, even that has absolutely stunning graphics, the Wii's graphics do make me want to stab myself in the eyes, still, I prefer the console for a number of reasons.

See the problem is, it's a battle of opinions, and you're all too stubborn and bias.

I prefer the Wii as well. I'm just trying to explain that I don't think games are automatically bad as soon as they surpass a certain graphical level

[Frogger]

I prefer the Wii as well. I'm just trying to explain that I don't think games are automatically bad as soon as they surpass a certain graphical level

Oh no, good quality! The game must be awful!

It's just a matter of genres appealling to different audiences, and there's a lot of them people would consider fun. I mean, I sit there on Mario Galaxy and my cousin turns it off to play Mario Sonic Olympic tripe thing, which is the most horrendous game I own currently, but he's only five. Still, if it helps the market nobody cares, there's no way of classifying it.

Plus, Frummage, I actually take your opinion seeing as you actually play very well.

[FRuMMaGe]

Oh no, good quality! The game must be awful!

It's just a matter of genres appealling to different audiences, and there's a lot of them people would consider fun. I mean, I sit there on Mario Galaxy and my cousin turns it off to play Mario Sonic Olympic tripe thing, which is the most horrendous game I own currently, but he's only five. Still, if it helps the market nobody cares, there's no way of classifying it.

Plus, Frummage, I actually take your opinion seeing as you actually play very well.

Ahh yes. Damn you and your Bob-ombs

[Squall7]

Just felt like writing a little post on the endless supply of Wii owners who take it on themselves to cling with such piousness to the notion that all games with good graphics inherently lack depth or fun game-play.

I refer you to the encapsulation of this in the following thread, aptly named "OMG This is so freakin annoying!"

http://www.wiichat.com/lounge/46117-...-annoying.html

As you can see, this person has probably never played Bioshock, but because it has amazing graphics they are making several (wrong) assumptions:
> The game is NOT fun to play.
> The game has poor controls and/or game-play.
> Everyone who likes the game is a "graphics-whore".

This is a very widespread state of mind across most of this forum and it really ticks me off when I hear amazing games such as Halo 3 and Bioshock having their great graphics used as a negative point.

I am sure I am not alone in this.

EDIT: Before some people start a barrage of poorly worded "ZOMG! U R T3H GR4FICKS HORE!" posts, I would like to stress that I enjoy my Wii more than my Xbox 360.

Wow. Not sure how many people actually use that flawed arguement (that graphics = bad game).

Personally, to me it's a case of "graphics don't decide whether a game is good or not". In essence, I treat graphics as a red herring. It's neither here nor there, although it's designed to try and convince people.

Besides, I can't complain, I'm hoping to get a 360 soon! :P (In fact, there's masses of people in this forum that has Wii and a 360).

[Narah]

For me the most important thing is wether a game is fun or not. If a fun game also has good graphics, brilliant! If it doesn't, I don't mind.

[261311]

Graphics are a bonus, in other words, they don't make a game.
I do find that games with low-quality animations and graphics may even equal or surpass those with good graphics because they either a. spent more time on the game in the playability section, or b. had more money left over to use on the game from not exercising their right to put "l33t super gfx" in their games. This doesn't mean that graphically lacking games are always better, because just as ones that are graphically superior, they have their off-titles but this is more less of a generalization of my opinion.

[Eagles]

I think people get so caught up defending their consoles that statements like "Games with good graphics are not fun to play" just slip out. I play games because they are fun and normally the strength of the graphics in a particular game don't change the level of enjoyment for me. I guess that's why I own a Wii, because I have fun with Nintendo's games.