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    Nintendo's 'secret war' on Xbox Live Arcade and PlayStation Store

    WiiWare Week: Independent developers reveal format-holder's strategy to boost digital download support

    In the latest intalment in our series of 'WiiWare week' features, developers have revealed that Nintendo has been keenly capitalising on publicly-aired frustrations with Xbox Live Arcade to help drive the number of games produced for its imminent digital distribution platform.

    According to our sources, Nintendo has been actively briefing studios on what it says is the increased flexibility of WiiWare, from cheaper development through to more flexible pricing, makes it a better service to make games for - painting a stark contrast to the likes of Xbox Live Arcade.

    Microsoft recently halved the royalties paid for first-party Xbox Live Arcade from 70 per cent to 35 per cent on games that make under $4m in revenues (the rate rises closer to 50 per cent when the revenues go over that amount, Develop understands), and Nintendo has been keen to take advantage of the anger amongst studios over the changes, directing them towards its own platform instead.

    Key to its pitch is that WiiWare isn't populated by retro releases, unlike Xbox Live Arcade and to a lesser extent the PlayStation Store - something Jeff Minter had previously gone on the record to complain about.

    "Nintendo has made it very clear to us that we'll not only be making a better royalty rate from WiiWare games, but we'll also have a better chance of selling games - the service won't be clogged up with the retro titles that have blighted the chances of many independent studios on Xbox Live Arcade," said one studio business development boss, speaking to Develop under conditions of anonymity.

    Added another WiiWare developer, who also didn't want to be named: "Frankly, we're not looking at making games for Xbox Live Arcade because the service is full of shit," he said, pointing towards the service's number of retro remakes.

    You can read the full report on how Nintendo is waging - and it seems winning - what one developer called a "secret war" here.
    Frankly, we're not looking at making games for Xbox Live Arcade because the service is full of shit
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    Good job Nintendo!

    They know even if they gave away 90% of the profit back to the dev's its nothing but free cash and what Nintendo needs more than anything right now is the great games not money. They have plenty of money themself with the best selling console and handheld followed by the largest and best selling 1st party support.

    Not only will this help Nintendo score some good exclusives at virtually no cost to them, but this will also encourage the "brains" of gaming to say "screw the politics of it all I just want to make games!" Be it on a Wii with motion control or for an HD console They just want to make a living and do what they enjoy. Some may see it as playing dirty I guess but everyone does it its buisness and all this is going to do is give Nintendo fans more of what they are missing.

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    Great article. I think it's great that Nintenod has Virtual Console for the classics and then WiiWare for the new-stuff.

    Only problem is where will WiiWare games be stored? I think Nintendo should allow saving and running games directly from SD cards. The files can still be keyed to your hardware to stop piracy.

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    Added another WiiWare developer, who also didn't want to be named: "Frankly, we're not looking at making games for Xbox Live Arcade because the service is full of shit," he said, pointing towards the service's number of retro remakes.
    El Oh El!

    If you replace the word, "remakes" with "titles", he just described what Nintendo's service currently is - all retro titles. That will change when Wiiware arrives, but it's still going to be mostly retro title releases in the foreseeable future. And frankly, if I were to play a retro game I would rather play an updated version, over the version I played whenever the title was originally released. At least then, I would feel I'm paying for some extra work that has gone into remastering the games.

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    another great find vashivihan. though I did already know about the crap on xbox live arcade. I havent seen much that was good for the wiiware yet, but if what we seen so far is making developers happy, well then it can only mean a good thing for us gamers.

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    Sounds good, not sure how much I will be willing to spend for WiiWare, but its sounding like a nice little service to have.

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    Hmmm, never cared for arcade games. I haven't ever bought a single one and don't plan on buying WiiWare games.
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    Very nice find and yes that was major pwnage! Great job Nintendo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frog
    Only problem is where will WiiWare games be stored? I think Nintendo should allow saving and running games directly from SD cards. The files can still be keyed to your hardware to stop piracy.
    Nintendo said they are going to use a special compression software to shrink down Wii-ware titles and then quickly blow them back up just before playing them. Still I'm not sure this will be enough in the end.

    Maybe though, we only have so many "Channel" spaces available. If its enough to let us fill every channel slot without using up all the memory I would call it good.
    Just use your SD card to transfer what will and will not fit on the wii-channels back and forth.
    In the end I think they are going to need some type of extra storage space be it SD/USB Flash/HDD something to make the download junky happy. Hopefully its something as simple as the SD slot just expanding the current storage space. Simple and easy. Everyone uses them anyways for everything else.

    With DLC comming you know we are gonna pack the Wii so fast even a box of colon blow wouldn't help.

    I'm not sure Nintendos innovation will be able to keep up with their imagination when it comes to how much space we have available and how much fun stuff they give us to cram on it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frog
    Great article. I think it's great that Nintenod has Virtual Console for the classics and then WiiWare for the new-stuff.

    Only problem is where will WiiWare games be stored? I think Nintendo should allow saving and running games directly from SD cards. The files can still be keyed to your hardware to stop piracy.
    Well, Nintendo is planning on compressing the WiiWare game files. Then when you want to play a game, it uncompresses, allowing you to play it. Smart move, but they should have done the same with virtual console.

    EDIT: DAMN! I didn't read wezeles's post...


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