I think 2009 will be the year of the Hardcore gamer for Wii owners. However I think hardcore gaming is about more than just online multiplayer, hell people were cranking out thousands of hours on Super Mario 64 and Final Fantasy 7 way before online multiplayer came out. In the end though, a console is what you make it. There is enough shovelware trash and kid-friendly games on each console to make them Non-hardcore as well. And there are enough Hardcore titles on Wii to make it Hardcore. It just depends on what you buy. Don't go out and buy Animal Crossing and Wii Play and then come back and B!tch about the Wii not having any hardcore games when you could have just as easily bought Metroid Prime 3, Madworld, No More Heroes, or Zelda.