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    Can you explain the low sales of Hardcore Titles

    Hello, there's some things around the games market that block the good expectations of Third-parties about the low sales of Hardcore mature titles.
    First the low sales of titles like Madworld, HOD: Overkill, Dead Raising and now the low sales of GTA:CTW for DS. These sales shocked the market, but the third-parties need to understand that the sales on Nintendo platforms aren't like the xbox360/ps3, the sales of these platforms are very fast and accustom the third-parties to expect sales reaching the million copies the first or the second week the game releases on every console. In the other hand the Nintendo platform sales are slow and take time to reach these goals, this not means the hardcore mature titles won't reach these sales in less than a year, but generally reach the goal a year or take more time. And now becose the economy down-turn the sales are even more slowly. The third-parties need to know this and accustom to sales on long terms in a Nintendo platform.

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    Nintendo doesn't bother showing them off at all, you remember Disaster? They looked proud of it a couple of years ago, then BAM! They tell us its coming out in a month or something, and when it actually comes out, its limited. Its the same with Madworld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickmode View Post
    Madworld,
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    Madworlds low sales
    Mainly due to it looking different to most games
    Norms wont buy a game thats cartoony in look

    HOD OK
    I dont think I ever saw a add for it on TV

    Dead Rising
    Its crap on the Wii

    GTA DS
    Every body that wants the game has downloaded it
    The DSs low games sales is due to this


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    Quote Originally Posted by stickmode View Post
    Hello, there's some things around the games market that block the good expectations of Third-parties about the low sales of Hardcore mature titles.
    First the low sales of titles like Madworld, HOD: Overkill, Dead Raising and now the low sales of GTA:CTW for DS. These sales shocked the market, but the third-parties need to understand that the sales on Nintendo platforms aren't like the xbox360/ps3, the sales of these platforms are very fast and accustom the third-parties to expect sales reaching the million copies the first or the second week the game releases on every console. In the other hand the Nintendo platform sales are slow and take time to reach these goals, this not means the hardcore mature titles won't reach these sales in less than a year, but generally reach the goal a year or take more time. And now becose the economy down-turn the sales are even more slowly. The third-parties need to know this and accustom to sales on long terms in a Nintendo platform.
    The answer is relatively simple, I think. The audience for Wii is predominantly not hardcore. Those who are in this gamer group have gotten a 360 or PS3 already (and may have even sold their Wiis if they bought one early in the console's life). The result is an upward climb for these third parties to gain the attention of the mainstream and hardcore gamers who have already looked the other way.

    It's similar to how multiplatform games usually sell better on 360 than on PS3 in America, despite the fact that PS3 owners are more likely to buy games than 360 owners. The reason has little to do with the games or the consoles...but mainly because more people have a 360 in America. What I'm trying to say is that the problem isn't the product. The actual problem is the current situation with consumers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickmode View Post
    Hello, there's some things around the games market that block the good expectations of Third-parties about the low sales of Hardcore mature titles.
    First the low sales of titles like Madworld, HOD: Overkill, Dead Raising and now the low sales of GTA:CTW for DS. These sales shocked the market, but the third-parties need to understand that the sales on Nintendo platforms aren't like the xbox360/ps3, the sales of these platforms are very fast and accustom the third-parties to expect sales reaching the million copies the first or the second week the game releases on every console. In the other hand the Nintendo platform sales are slow and take time to reach these goals, this not means the hardcore mature titles won't reach these sales in less than a year, but generally reach the goal a year or take more time. And now becose the economy down-turn the sales are even more slowly. The third-parties need to know this and accustom to sales on long terms in a Nintendo platform.
    Because you keep overrating things and everyone knows that anything you like will be woeful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickmode View Post
    Hello, there's some things around the games market that block the good expectations of Third-parties about the low sales of Hardcore mature titles.
    First the low sales of titles like Madworld, HOD: Overkill, Dead Raising and now the low sales of GTA:CTW for DS. These sales shocked the market, but the third-parties need to understand that the sales on Nintendo platforms aren't like the xbox360/ps3, the sales of these platforms are very fast and accustom the third-parties to expect sales reaching the million copies the first or the second week the game releases on every console. In the other hand the Nintendo platform sales are slow and take time to reach these goals, this not means the hardcore mature titles won't reach these sales in less than a year, but generally reach the goal a year or take more time. And now becose the economy down-turn the sales are even more slowly. The third-parties need to know this and accustom to sales on long terms in a Nintendo platform.


    Some of us are getting tired of the whole "Hardcore" crap that users like you keep whining about. I'll buy the games I want to play.

    Madworld = overrated

    House of the Dead Overkill- own it, quit bitching. I am not here to drop 200 bucks a month on games for the petty console warz. It would have been worth if it was Sega and we needed to push consoles such as the Saturn or Dreamcast.

    Dead Rising = shotty port

    GTA: Chinatown Wars- I hate the GTA series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwind View Post


    Some of us are getting tired of the whole "Hardcore" crap that users like you keep whining about. I'll buy the games I want to play.

    Madworld = overrated

    House of the Dead Overkill- own it, quit bitching. I am not here to drop 200 bucks a month on games for the petty console warz. It would have been worth if it was Sega and we needed to push consoles such as the Saturn or Dreamcast.

    Dead Rising = shotty port

    GTA: Chinatown Wars- I hate the GTA series.

    Get'em Godwind

    And Madworld was fun. I plan on getting some HOtDOK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodine View Post
    Get'em Godwind

    And Madworld was fun. I plan on getting some HOtDOK.
    I found Madworld fun to watch, as opposed to actually playing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio View Post
    It's similar to how multiplatform games usually sell better on 360 than on PS3 in America, despite the fact that PS3 owners are more likely to buy games than 360 owners.
    You must know something nobody else does. Statistically the 360 has the highest attach rate of any console IN HISTORY, meaning per system in use, average per system, more people own more games on the 360, than any other console EVER.

    PS3 owners are more likely to buy Blu-Ray movies than games...

    http://xbox.joystiq.com/2008/01/28/3...s-per-console/
    http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=17099
    http://weblogs.variety.com/the_cut_s...s-the-wii.html
    http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/18096/...-Rate-Exposed/
    http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/69...Supremacy.html


    I own 130+ games on the 360, and have yet to find a serious enough reason to buy a PS3. My wife wants one for the Disney Movies on Blue-ray, that's probably what will make us buy one eventually... No other Blu-ray player is as upgradeable as the PS3 unfortunately...

    Before this turns into a console fanboy war, I'm not trying to go there... I'm just saying, if you want to state something as a fact, make sure your facts are right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickmode View Post
    Can you explain the low sales of Hardcore Titles.
    I think that this has been answered pretty well in the posts so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bio View Post
    The answer is relatively simple, I think. The audience for Wii is predominantly not hardcore.
    Quote Originally Posted by stickmode View Post
    the third-parties need to understand that the sales on Nintendo platforms aren't like the xbox360/ps3, the sales of these platforms are very fast and accustom the third-parties to expect sales reaching the million copies the first or the second week the game releases on every console. In the other hand the Nintendo platform sales are slow and take time to reach these goals, this not means the hardcore mature titles won't reach these sales in less than a year, but generally reach the goal a year or take more time.
    So there's not enough 'hardcore' Wii owners to start with and Wii games have a longer shelf life than other consoles games so early sales figures can be deceiving. Case closed.
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