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    Wii HD could damage PS3 comeback

    Wedbush Morgan's exhaustive report on the effects of ancillary revenues on the console cycle contains a little nugget that suggests a Wii HD could convince consumers that it's "the last console they will ever need."

    The analyst firm suggests that the HD-capable Wii, which is referred to in the paper as "Wii Plus", would also come with a redesigned WIimote that incorporates Motion Plus technology, 1080p output at 60 FPS, and full backwards compatibility with current Wii titles. Oh, and a hard drive too. And all that for close to the US$ 199.99 price point.

    So what does this mean for the other consoles? The report says that the advent of the "Wii Plus" could seriously damage Sony's chances for a PS3 comeback for the current console cycle:

    In our view, if Nintendo can offer such a device by year-end 2010, it will be in a position to seriously damage Sony’s chances of a comeback this cycle. We would expect publishers to support such a move, given that the cost of porting an Xbox 360 game to the new Wii Plus HD format would likely be lower than the cost of building a ground up Wii game (we estimate under US$ 5 million). Should Nintendo be able to convince publishers like EA and Take-Two that the Wii Plus should be supported by the entire EA Sports catalog and by the next installment of Grand Theft Auto, it should be in a position to successfully convince consumers that the Wii Plus is the last console they will ever need to purchase.

    Lots of ifs and shoulds, there. Earlier this month, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata stated that he sees no reason to make a Wii HD, but hey, maybe by next year they'll finally have that reason.
    heres the link http://wii.qj.net/Wii-HD-could-damag.../49/aid/132568
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    i really don't see nintendo coming out with an "upgrade" to their current system, especially since it's been out for so long and already has a large install base. it's very unlikely they'd come out with the same thing with upgrades, cuz that would be a big screw you to everyone who already has a wii. they'll just wait till next gen

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    Yeah I don't think Satoru will change his mind in the next year. They made the conscious decision to make wii not HD and things are going very well so why change. Nintendo wouldn't put out a upgraded wii just to hurt PS3 sales. They don't really see themselves in the same category as the PS3 anymore. Plus if I were to buy another console, the bluray is what would draw me to the PS3. I can't see nintendo upgrading with bluray support after not even having DVD compatibility out of the box.

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    The analyst firm suggests that the HD-capable Wii, which is referred to in the paper as "Wii Plus", would also come with a redesigned WIimote that incorporates Motion Plus technology, 1080p output at 60 FPS, and full backwards compatibility with current Wii titles. Oh, and a hard drive too. And all that for close to the US$ 199.99 price point.
    Boy, he sure does like to dream, especially with that price point. Anything new that comes from a company nowadays usually means a price hike or a stalled price (DSi, PSP Go, Xbox Elite, etc)

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    Why bother? Nintendo has the number one selling console on the market, it has a perfect price point, and Wii is the only console that makes money when they sell it as opposed to making a loss, and it is genuinely fun to play.

    Nintendo does not need a more powerful console, they need developers who are willing to push the limits of, not only the systems finite graphical hardware, but it's unique control scheme. And that library seems to get better every year...

    I will say this though, with the cash they are putting away with the first gen of Wii, their next console will be a beast...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpwasr10 View Post
    Nintendo does not need a more powerful console, they need developers who are willing to push the limits of, not only the systems finite graphical hardware, but it's unique control scheme. And that library seems to get better every year...
    Miyamoto stated that there would have been Wii Speak compatibility in Super Mario Bros. Wii, but the ****ing 2 DIMENSION GAME (may be 2.5D) was already pushing the processor too much, so it wasn't included! How can they push the limits any more?

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    Same way they do it with any other console, as it gets older they devs. come up with ways to "trick" the hardware into doing things with less resources. The Conduit has Wii speak and is certainly a more graphically intense game the Mario Bros.

    Devs. simply become more efficient with the hardware.
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    This guy is right in that Wii HD has potential to REALLY stick it to the competition, especially to the struggling PS3.

    I'm not yet convinced it would prevent PS3 from making a comeback, though. So much stuff is under the PS3's hood that I'd be hard-pressed to find someone who would prefer a Wii HD...especially if PS3 gets a price cut. Also remember that Sony follows the 10-year product lifecycle. Finally, PS3's motion controller tech is very 1:1 accurate already. I could see the Wii HD directly competing with PS3 in this regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio View Post
    This guy is right in that Wii HD has potential to REALLY stick it to the competition, especially to the struggling PS3.

    I'm not yet convinced it would prevent PS3 from making a comeback, though. So much stuff is under the PS3's hood that I'd be hard-pressed to find someone who would prefer a Wii HD...especially if PS3 gets a price cut. Also remember that Sony follows the 10-year product lifecycle. Finally, PS3's motion controller tech is very 1:1 accurate already. I could see the Wii HD directly competing with PS3 in this regard.
    I don't see the PS3 being nailed to the ground with those upgrades. Nintendo now needs the games, not the hardware to support it. For any PS3 or 360 owner, Nintendo would have to do A LOT to bring those owners back. It's the same the other way as well. The PS3/360 are so distant from the Wii now, it won't make a bit of a difference.

    Nintendo really needs to reach out to the community, as I've found the community of the Xbox outside of the gaming to be excellent. They help smaller websites and community by sending staff members to each website. They give away different codes to promote the sites as well, which I'll admit, lured me to those sites.
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    redesigned WIimote that incorporates Motion Plus technology, 1080p output at 60 FPS, and full backwards compatibility with current Wii titles. Oh, and a hard drive too. And all that for close to the US$ 199.99 price point.
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