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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob#4 View Post
    Nothing beats nostalgia. Nothing. Not even objectively better games.

    I'm sorry, but objectively, goldeneye just wouldn't stand up to other shooters out there. It would live solely on nostalgia. You need to get over it in order to accept that Goldeneye was great by N64 standards but today it is a very crappy, repetitive game.

    Also, stop bitching about aiming down the sights. If you don't remember correctly, in the original due to the crappy controls you had to hold a shoulder button to aim manually, this zoomed in slightly and improved accuracy.
    I disagree. Goldeneye would do just fine. Perfect Dark XBLA released with its unchanged mechanics and aiming options. It sold decently and still has a rabid cult fanbase of followers. It didn't introduce anything new except for online play and updated graphics, exactly how the Goldeneye007 title here should have been treated.

    As for the Call of Duty style aiming down sights, yes, I would not complain about this if it were another shooter that does not have the 'Goldeneye' label on it. But this one does, and I personally think the aiming mechanics in GE and PD were fine.

    If Nintendo and Microsoft just released Goldeneye 64 updated on both of their systems I would not care about this re-make. Sadly Nintendo thinks they can just butcher their best selling FPS franchise on their consoles ever.

    Edit: And SatanicJay, I find it hilarious you got all butthurt about me changing one of your posts in a quote. It's a standard forum arguing technique. Learn2internetdebate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoto View Post
    You misunderstand, what he meant is most people that want the actual goldeneye port or a remade one are on the 360 or ps3, not wii.
    I would have thought that most people who owned an N64 and Goldeneye would have originally been Nintendo fans, so they would most likely have bought a Wii if only for all the VC games. I can't say that I see any connection between Goldeneye and 360/PS3 other than those systems being saturated with FPS; although I guess there could have been a few people that only bought the N64 for Goldeneye.

    Whether Goldeneye will be a success or not remains to be seen. I don't understand why anyone would write the game off before it's finished though. The hands on previews have been quite positive, saying that it does a good job of blending the new and nostalgia. The only negative thing I've seen posted was that the multiplayer was perhaps too much like the N64 version; which would actually be a positive for most people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shady41 View Post
    If Nintendo and Microsoft just released Goldeneye 64 updated on both of their systems I would not care about this re-make. Sadly Nintendo thinks they can just butcher their best selling FPS franchise on their consoles ever.
    Slight error there
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisinghelen View Post
    I can't say that I see any connection between Goldeneye and 360/PS3 other than those systems being saturated with FPS; although I guess there could have been a few people that only bought the N64 for Goldeneye.
    Uhhhh the connection between the 360 and Goldeneye is Rare you idiot. The developers that made the great game. Wow please tell me you are not a fan of Goldeneye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazytimes View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raisinghelen View Post
    I can't say that I see any connection between Goldeneye and 360/PS3 other than those systems being saturated with FPS; although I guess there could have been a few people that only bought the N64 for Goldeneye.
    Uhhhh the connection between the 360 and Goldeneye is Rare you idiot. The developers that made the great game. Wow please tell me you are not a fan of Goldeneye.

    Jeez, are there any fanboys without a high horse??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makoto View Post
    Sigh... IF only I can actually find people on here that are actually good arguers,
    sorry that your the only PRO idiot around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloYdian View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Makoto View Post
    Sigh... IF only I can actually find people on here that are actually good arguers,
    sorry that your the only PRO idiot around here.

    So, Much, WIN!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazytimes View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raisinghelen View Post
    I can't say that I see any connection between Goldeneye and 360/PS3 other than those systems being saturated with FPS; although I guess there could have been a few people that only bought the N64 for Goldeneye.
    Uhhhh the connection between the 360 and Goldeneye is Rare you idiot. The developers that made the great game. Wow please tell me you are not a fan of Goldeneye.
    What you mean the people that had all left Rare before Nintendo sold off their shares to Microsoft? The ones that went and formed Free Radical and now work for Crytek UK?

    Microsoft's Rare had NOTHING to do with making Goldeneye. So what is the connection again? If you didn't know that Microsoft's Rare had no involvement in the game then please tell me that you are not claiming to be a Goldeneye fan.

    Rare would be the worst possible studio to work on a Goldeneye game, their best efforts of late have been the 360's avatars and Game Room (they didn't even do the port of Perfect Dark). My first choice would have been Retro Studios but Eurocom should be ok as they did a pretty good job on Dead Space Extraction.

    Honestly if you have no clue what you are talking about then you shouldn't bother saying anything. I wouldn't call you an 'idiot' though, as that would probably be a disservice to all the other idiots out there. A clueless moron perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisinghelen View Post
    Microsoft's Rare had NOTHING to do with making Goldeneye. So what is the connection again? If you didn't know that Microsoft's Rare had no involvement in the game then please tell me that you are not claiming to be a Goldeneye fan.

    Rare would be the worst possible studio to work on a Goldeneye game, their best efforts of late have been the 360's avatars and Game Room (they didn't even do the port of Perfect Dark). My first choice would have been Retro Studios but Eurocom should be ok as they did a pretty good job on Dead Space Extraction.
    Naturally Rare themselves can't be trusted to work on any of their old franchises. You are correct, they did not do the port of PD XBLA, that was the work of 4J Studios. And in my book, 4J Studios did a fine job and earned my trust in regards to taking care of Rare's past properties (online implementation aside though).

    So as far as I'm concerned, if Rare ever gets the green light to finish porting Goldeneye XBLA over to the 360 then 4J Studios can complete their work and it'll be a great success, better or at least equal to how well PD XBLA sold.

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    WOW! So many lame posts me don't know where to start.

    Ok this one takes the cake:

    Quote Originally Posted by Skippy View Post
    Out of all this, no one's mentioned the REAL reason why GoldenEye will fail on the Wii: that sort of game just does not sell well on the Wii. The players who want that sort of experience play those games on the 360 or PS3.
    Please take a business class sir!

    The players who want that sort of experience play those games on the 360 or PS3
    That's EXACTLY why Nintendo decided to publish this game!

    This game is more about selling CONSOLES that actual Goldeneye software, although the strategy will work hand in hand think of all the Wii sales this announcement alone is creating.

    Nintendo saw an empty void and filled it, just like MS and Sony are trying to do with their overhaul of casual games (although a wii bit too late).

    I can GARUANTEE PS3 and 360 loyalists have already bought a Wii ahead of time and it will only get worst come release day.<<< THERE YOU HAVE IT
    In 2007 I predicted Wii Fit would sell more than Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

    EVERYONE at wiichat.com disagreed with me.

    As it stands today:

    Super Smash Bros. Brawl: 9.49 Million

    Wii Fit: 35 Million

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