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    Hay Everyone thanx for replay,
    This will convert any resolution to you're screen's optimum resolution, but I think it'll stretch it to fit you're screen, I'm not sure yet.

    I don't have HDTV, and I can't get one at least for the next year
    why not trying to use my 20-inch Apple Cinema Display,

    This this is still Pre-Order , I'll get mine very soon
    Shipping Date, UnKnown ??!!

    and this is not my first time to buy Gefen Product, I did buy a VGA to DVI converter before, and It was a great product

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    Huh, I think you'd get jaggies...
    Just like when you stretch a tiny picture and try to put it as your desktop wallpaper...
    Check back and post when you get one though.

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    How Upconverters Work

    It's a video upscaler/upconverter, in essence, it upscales low resolution format video into higher resolution video by adding in extra pixels with close color approximation (not necessarily just stretching the 480i picture to 720p or 1080i/p, majority of HDTV sets can do that already) as well as de-interlacing interlaced video.

    All HDTV broadcasters (local and cable/satellite/IPTV) use commercial grade upconverters to make low resolution programming look noticeably better on their digital channels before it reaches HDTV sets or digital cable/satellite set top boxes. That's (partially) why standard definition programming on a digital feed of a channel looks better than the analog one.

    As for how good these machines can make the "jaggies" or pixelation from images go away or make them less noticeable, it all varies between different makes and models and what filter methods the devices uses. I'm not too familiar with brands and models or the devices themselves but I am familiar with some methods used in upconverting video. The good ones are the ones that can detect hard jagged edges of characters/objects in the video and soften them up, kind of like anti-aliasing for 2D images. For all of you Photoshop users out there, its similar to the Smart Blur filter.

    The problems with these upconverter devices when used with games is that the filters in the upconversion can be computationally complex and take some time in applying all of those nice eye candy filters. Which in turn causes visual lag in the actual gameplay. If you were playing an FPS, you could be dead before the device actually sends the image of you dying in agony on screen.

    I hope my explanation shed some light into what that lil box actually does.
    Last edited by MaxCapacitor; 02-20-2007 at 01:37 AM.
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    The problems with these upconverter devices when used with games is that the filters in the upconversion can be computationally complex and take some time in applying all of those nice eye candy filters. Which in turn causes visual lag in the actual gameplay. If you were playing an FPS, you could be dead before the device actually sends the image of you dying in agony on screen.
    thanx for the info, but I don't think it will lag
    will first of all this thing is made for games, check out there web site it says use you're PS3 or X360, so defiantly no lagging.
    I'll preorder it soon, and I'll update you guys with a new thread when I get it.
    I'll post my personal review.

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    I have the video upconverting on my receiver and there is no lag on game play. The picture seems to be a little better but I didn't think it looked that bad to begin with.

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    on a side note, that thing looks like it was meant to go under the mac mini.

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    Instead of dropping $350 for a converter, you should just go somewhere like Costco and get a 20" HD-LCD for $300.
    Last edited by Scuba Steve; 02-20-2007 at 09:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba Steve
    Instead of dropping $350 for a converter, you should just go somewhere like Costco and get a 20" HD-LCD for $300.
    Not in my country (Saudi Arabia)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiijunkie
    I have the video upconverting on my receiver and there is no lag on game play. The picture seems to be a little better but I didn't think it looked that bad to begin with.
    it doesn't look bad at all, but I want to move my Wii to my room
    I can't buy Sony HDTV (I'm not buying other)
    So this is my only hope till I graduate from University and get a REAL job.

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