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    Quote Originally Posted by LuzTeTT
    Anyway, mate ... if you look up resolutions and high-definition, you'll soon learn that our brain can only comprehend so much. Most of these silly attitudes people have created towards the Wii's graphics are based on /other/ factors with no relevance to graphical hardware capabillity.
    so i am supposed to take from this that HDTV has not only reached, but passed our eyes ability to see fine details? well that's absolutely ridiculous. a simple test for this is to get a 360 and a hdtv and try a game on 480p and then on 1080i, see a difference? if not then you have eye trouble. Wikipedia defines 480p with either 704x480 (non-square sampling) or 640x480 (square sampling) pixel resolutions, try setting your monitor onto them, and see if you can see any difference from your normal resolution, while a computer monitor is obviously put to very different uses than a TV, this still proves that the human eye can perceive more at better resolutions.

    As for the rest of your post I'm not really sure what your trying to say, you start by saying that you like nintendo's approach, which i can see as perfectly understandable, but the fact that its easy to find another player on mario strikers is not evidence for this. anyway cheers for listing me the erm 'the size of the view'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemix
    Just look a Twlilight Princess, it's a Gamecube game polished up a little for the Wii. I think the graphics look amazing when compared to my PS2 with FFX and FXII loaded. Just think how the next exclusive Wii Zelda title would look. It's obvious the Wii can't compare to the XBox 360 and PS3 when it comes to textures, sharpness and resolution. But that doesn't mean the Wii can't produce games that look as good as XBox 360 and PS3 games. I mean the Wii is capable of doing advanced lighting, texture fill rates and physics, just all in low res (jaggies could be hidden with advanced motion blurring).

    Bottom line is the Wii graphics surpass all those of last gen gaming systems, and if developers put a more effort in a graphical stand point of view into their games, (which I think they'll start doing now due unexpected high sales) they could make Wii games look amazing. We'll just have to wait and see what the future holds for the Wii...
    yea the graphics are good

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockkybox
    so i am supposed to take from this that HDTV has not only reached, but passed our eyes ability to see fine details? well that's absolutely ridiculous. a simple test for this is to get a 360 and a hdtv and try a game on 480p and then on 1080i, see a difference? if not then you have eye trouble. Wikipedia defines 480p with either 704x480 (non-square sampling) or 640x480 (square sampling) pixel resolutions, try setting your monitor onto them, and see if you can see any difference from your normal resolution, while a computer monitor is obviously put to very different uses than a TV, this still proves that the human eye can perceive more at better resolutions.

    As for the rest of your post I'm not really sure what your trying to say, you start by saying that you like nintendo's approach, which i can see as perfectly understandable, but the fact that its easy to find another player on mario strikers is not evidence for this. anyway cheers for listing me the erm 'the size of the view'?
    What?
    ...

    1080P is about the maximum quality that we can perceive. Anything higher than that is just an upgrade of size and that's all we will soon be able to tell.
    It's only a matter of time before the resolutions don't make much difference to us...

    I didn't say there was no difference between 1080i and 480P. >.< I don't know where you got that from...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockkybox
    And thats supposed to be a good thing? sure it is for the company, but it genrally means that you as a consumer will be less satisfied with the final product
    So, are you less satisfied with the product?
    If so, its probaly b/c you dont likt the graphics of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyanRussel
    So, are you less satisfied with the product?
    If so, its probaly b/c you dont likt the graphics of it
    Good comment CyanR - when we actually get down to it, what exactly is the reason that everyone is demanding that Wii become this powerhouse of graphics? I have played games for 20+ years and seen thousands with piss poor graphics but enjoyable gameplay. I for one think that if the graphics do their job and flow with a passable framerate and actuall conveys the sense of the situation as it is meant to then - no worries, I don't feel hard done by or ripped off. Of course if the graphics make your eyes bleed and dance about in a South Park style then sure - complain hard and loud.

    As for the Wii - I personally haven't seen a game which made my eyes bleed although there has been some questionable animation!!! It does what Nintendo said it did - upto now.

    The control systems in games need to start coming together properly and yes the graphics sprucing up a bit more - it will come. The real issue for me is definately the control system advancement - give me that over graphics any day of the week.


    If you're going to post in this thread, c'mon and give some depth to your comment - "Game looks sh**e" and leave it at that doesn't validate why it's a bad game - or even if you enjoyed playing it!!

    This is such a diverse topic that one word / sentence postings don't explain why you expect supergood graphics from a machine not in the running with the other systems - I don't believe that Nintendo are saying "We don't rely on graphics for this system to work" and will then secretly pull out PS10 / XB720 graphical capabilities, just for the craic of course It aint going to happen!!
    ---Smithy...
    "This IS the difference over the other systems....graphics can make you believe you're there to some extent but motion gesture can make you believe you're doing it!"

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    I agree, a very speech!!

    Try not to make it too long, theres peeps around here who tend to do that!!

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