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    I'm sure someone around this forum knows the technical specs on just about every aspect of the Wii.

    I think lots of people have had similar problems, but it eventually works, could be a down server from nintendo.

    As far as the antenna, all I'm saying is give my suggestion about putting the router near the Wii a try. Could it be possible your bandwidth could be reduced by a weak signal? I don't know but I don't think so. Do you have WEP? If you do then you are already sure that you are connected to your router. If not, could you accidentally be on another network? I don't know if any of this will help you but just give it a shot.
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    WOW I finally got a connection to the shop and managed to download the Internet Channel!!!!

    I had to disable my laptop wireless card and then the wii connected into the shop! The moment I turned back the laptop I got a timeout error on the wii!

    So it turns out that every time i tried accessing the shop, either me or one of my family members must have been using the laptop wifi to get internet access and that caused some sort of interference (or hogged the bandwidth?)

    Anyway, the connection is definitely shaky but atleast I've now seen that it IS actually possible to enter the shop!

    Thanks for all the help and support guys

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    Glad you got it working.
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    Well, I managed to download the internet channel. But haven't been able to log back into the shop since! Tried many many many times. Very annoying. Atlast I know it CAN work. Cheers guys.

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    Kostodo...I was never able to enter the Shop Channel...I sent many email to Nintendo but no answers...with the last update things are better for DSL users...but for 56k users like me...no Shop Channel!
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    You could rule out the connection by changing your user agent of your browser to match the Wii and then visiting the VC shop channel on your PC.

    Can you verify that CTS to self is disabled on the laptop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciper
    You could rule out the connection by changing your user agent of your browser to match the Wii and then visiting the VC shop channel on your PC.

    Can you verify that CTS to self is disabled on the laptop?
    Well I did try opening the Shop from my laptop with the user agent switched in Firefox and it did load but it also did take random amounts of time to complete. It took ages actually. I tried it a few times and there were times when it couldn't load at all. But still it loaded about 90% of the time using the laptop, and only 2% of the time using the Wii.

    Could be that the Wii antenna is weaker than the laptop and struggles even more to download an already slow page. I am using a 128k connection after all. Thats pretty much 2 dial-up connections.

    What do you mean by verify that CTS to self is disabled?

    Other than that, I did find a way to get into the shop with a 100% success rate. Although its not a permanent solution, it works for me and I've managed to get what I needed so my personal battle with the Shop ends for now. I set up a proxy in my work office. My office connection uses a different ISP to my house and is 2mbit - but I have a leased line into my work from home so the connection from the Wii to the proxy is as if it were local. So that scenario basically gets the Wii access at my full bandwidth through 2 different ISPs - one with the proxy, and one without.

    So when I set the proxy to ON, and as a result pass through the office ISP, I can get into the shop every time. When I disable the proxy, its back to square 1 with a 2% success rate.

    This rules out my home LAN, router, wireless access point, Wii, cables etc. It also rules out my 128k connection as being insufficient - as I feared.
    So either, the Wii Shop is just screwed - servers are slow, overloaded or poorly designed - or there is something strange along my ISPs internet backbone thats conflicting with the Shop access (SSL certificate exchange maybe?).

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    i know this is kinda off your on going conversation but why don't you just buy the wired adapter and just plug right into your wii thats what i plan on doing since i live in the dorms i get lots of interference from other routers... plus the connection should be a bit faster and you will never drop which will be good if you are playing someone online in the near future

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont
    i know this is kinda off your on going conversation but why don't you just buy the wired adapter and just plug right into your wii thats what i plan on doing since i live in the dorms i get lots of interference from other routers... plus the connection should be a bit faster and you will never drop which will be good if you are playing someone online in the near future
    If you had been following the thread, then you would know that the possibility of my wireless connection having interference was eliminated by:

    * the test connection working fine
    * the weather channel working fine
    * the news channel working fine
    * the internet channel working fine
    * the everybody votes channel working fine
    * the wireless networking working fine for laptops/pcs
    * the Wii connecting fine to the shop using a proxy
    * the fact that I live in the Seychelles and am probably 1 of the 3 people on the island who owns a wireless router.

    But sure, if it were a interference problem, your solution is logical and would work

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    Good troubleshooting. Reading your entire post it seems that your ISP is somehow to blame. Can you run a traceroute to the shop channel from your laptop?

    CTS to Self is a setting on the wireless card that can increase speed on a single client but screw up other clients that are far away. CTS stands for Clear To Send and is how wireless cards handle "collisions" like on an old wired hub. If either the Wii or the Laptop has this setting enabled and one is too far away then they will stomp on each other. I dont think this is the issue based on your other testing

    Using the proxy through work may help with the static pages but I worry that it has increased latency to the point that future online games will be impacted.

    Are you using an ISDN connection?

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