Do i need a router if i buy an adapter?

[gizzavii]

Well now i'm scared. I'm not brill on Pc's but i have limited knowledge??

I connected the switch cable to the back of my pc via ethernet port. I then set up connection sharing with my current internet dial up service... (i think the problem might be there.) I have broadband through tiscali which is called 'dial up'?

Any way under that is a high speed connection thingy which i never used before and it always sais a network cable is unpluged??

I set up the ics off the dial up conection and connected wii. I also turned off the fire wall to allow the wii acsess to the network i just set up.

But i got the message saying the wii could not find the internet connection.

Could it be something to do with the 'local area network' being unpluged?

Can i make this connection with my current setup??

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[FR3344LL]

the reason for "network cable unplugged" could be one of two things:-
1. it's the wrong cable - if you connect a pc to another pc/console directly (pc--->pc/console) you need a "crossover" cable, and you need to give the two devices "fixed" IP addresses in the same range i.e. pc1 = 192.168.1.1 pc/console2 = 192.168.1.2

2. this message also appears when a windows XP pc cannot locate a DHCP server....it will try for a few minutes, then give up and allocate itself an IP of 169.264.x.x which is known as APIPA (automatic private IP address).


you need to enable ICS on the connection which is your internet connection.

[gizzavii]

ok, so it doesn't matter about the fact that i have dial up broadband?

or

that there are 'network cables unpluged?'

I need to asign correct 'ip' address for both the wii and my pc? How do i find these address? Or will the cd rom you get with the usb dongle have this info... better yet do it for me?

And also how do i know if i have a network card?? My PC is a dell dimension and is only about a year old if that!?!?

[gizzavii]

[QUOTE=gizzavii]ok, so it doesn't matter about the fact that i have dial up Or will the cd rom you get with the usb dongle have this info... better yet do it for me?[quote]

P.s i don't mean you do it for me... i mean the cd rom!?!

[FR3344LL]

dial up broadband?

isn't your connection set to "always on"? in the settings for ICS it has the option to allow "other users" to control the connection...

as for your pc having a network card (NIC), it definitely has if you've been able to connect a patch or crossover cable to it.

if your internet connection has definitely been configured to allow ICS, then i'd have thought that the supplied software that comes bundled with the USB dongle would configure the pc correctly.

once that is done, go into the Wii internet settings and go through the wireless side of it.

[P-Rez25]

guys...

there's no need to buy a wireless dongle. the Wii has wireless 802.11b/g (11Mbps/54Mbps) straight out of the box.

please read through my reply to Gizzavii which gives a hyperlink to practicallynetworked.com

you will find all the necessary information there regarding ICS.

please be aware that you will need to assign the Wii with a "manual" IP address which falls within the same IP range as the "host" PC, which will probably be 192.168.0.1
the Wii would need to be set @ 192.168.0.2

subnet mask values would be 255.255.255.0 for this IP range.
hth

some people should really read the manual. i already had a wireless network setup and all i did was turn on my Wii follow the instructions, and in no time i had my Wii connected to the I-Net.....its flawless

[gizzavii]

dial up broadband?

isn't your connection set to "always on"? in the settings for ICS it has the option to allow "other users" to control the connection...

urm... i think so? To log on to the net at home i have to double click the network icon on screen and add my username and password.... then it sais in bottom right hand corner of screen tiscali123 now connected??

as for your pc having a network card (NIC), it definitely has if you've been able to connect a patch or crossover cable to it.

i have connected a crossova cable to my pc but i never saw any message say ing that it was 'connected'... nothing on the screen to say the wii was even there??

if your internet connection has definitely been configured to allow ICS, then i'd have thought that the supplied software that comes bundled with the USB dongle would configure the pc correctly.

once that is done, go into the Wii internet settings and go through the wireless side of it.

Cheers for the help again.... i just can't seem to grasp this?!?!?

[FR3344LL]

some people should really read the manual. i already had a wireless network setup and all i did was turn on my Wii follow the instructions, and in no time i had my Wii connected to the I-Net.....its flawless

i'd agree with you...only if you're connecting to a router.

apart from the fact that my linksys wrt54gs wouldn't play ball, i connected
to my existing wifi network first time.

but...ICS is a whole different kettle of fish. for the unitiated, it can be a bit
of a 'mare.

gizzavii...

it sounds like your tiscali b/b is "always on"...what i mean by that is that you
don't have to type your username / password each time...you just click on
connection and you're connected, right?

ok...i take no credit for the following information...it's lifted directly from
the M$ website.

On the host computer, follow these steps to share the Internet connection:

1. Log on to the host computer as Administrator or as Owner.
2. Click Start, and then click Control Panel.
3. Click Network and Internet Connections.
4. Click Network Connections.
5. Right-click the connection that you use to connect to the Internet.
For example, if you connect to the Internet by using a modem, right-click
the connection that you want under Dial-up.
6. Click Properties.
7. Click the Advanced tab.
8. Under Internet Connection Sharing, select the Allow other network users to
connect through this computer's Internet connection check box.
9. If you are sharing a dial-up Internet connection, select the Establish a dial-up
connection whenever a computer on my network attempts to access the Internet check box
if you want to permit your computer to automatically connect to the Internet.
10. Click OK. You receive the following message:
When Internet Connection Sharing is enabled, your LAN adapter will be set to use IP
address 192.168.0.1. Your computer may lose connectivity with other computers on
your network. If these other computers have static IP addresses, it is a good idea to set them
to obtain their IP addresses automatically. Are you sure you want to enable Internet
Connection Sharing?
11. Click Yes.
The connection to the Internet is shared to other computers on the local area network (LAN).
The network adapter that is connected to the LAN is configured with a static IP address of
192.168.0.1 and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0


I think this will work for the Wii:-

1. Go into Wii Options
2. Go into Wii Settings
3. Select "internet"
4. Choose "connection 1"
5. Select the "wired connection"
6. Next, it'll initiate a connection test...click OK
7. You should see an error message...ignore it and click ok
8. Select "change settings"
9. Highlight the "wired" connection
10. Press the > key until you see the "Auto-obtain IP" screen
11. Click "NO"
12. Click on "advanced"
13. in the IP box, key in 192.168.0.2
14. in the subnet box, key in 255.255.255.0
15 in the default router box, enter 192.168.0.1
16. click "confirm" etc.

you *might* have to enter DNS values too...this is exactly as above, scroll
across the internet options until you see "Auto-obtain DNS"..click on "NO"
then "advanced". In the promary DNS value box, type 192.168.0.1
ignore the secondary DNS..it's not required.

click "confirm etc to see if the test connects.

you might want to try the test with the crossover cable and the straight
through ethernet cable.

let me know how you get on.

[gizzavii]

Once again brilliant info thanks very much indeed. Sorry about the rude delay in answering my computer would not let me log in for some reason yesterday eve!?!?

[gizzavii]

I'll try all this tonight.... been busy watching Liverpool lose last night