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    I wrote an entire diatribe - nay - 'petition' about the Wii code fiasco on another site. I'll post it here for you to check out, if you like.

    Yeah. Cos another petition will really make Nintendo change its cowardly colors And I say this as a big Wii fan.

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    This petition calls for Nintendo of America, Inc. to provide a more usable and
    practical link-up system between Wii software, such as the Mii Channel.

    The Issue
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    The current implementation offered by Nintendo requires users to share their
    "Wii codes", 16 digit numeric codes, with other Wii users in a manual,
    'word-of-mouth' fashion. In order to enjoy online features such as the Mii
    Channel mentioned above, a user (User A) has to manually find another user (User
    B), explicitly relate his/her Wii code to that user, receive the other user's
    code. Then the user has to enter this code into his/her Wii system. However,
    this is not the end of the process - User B must also enter User A's Wii code
    into his/her system before User A and User B can connect online via Wii
    software.

    While this may seem simple enough on paper, it is entirely unpractical in
    execution. There are too many barriers in a process that, technically, could
    be much simpler. These barriers render the online connectivity features of
    software such as the Mii Channel essentially useless.

    While it may be possible to connect with a few well known accquaintences, it is
    unlikely to pool larger connection sets, which are essential to the online Wii
    experience. For example, software such as the Mii Channel's Mii Parade does not
    really come alive until one is able to link-up with several other Wiis. Not only
    is this detrimental to the Mii Channel online experience, it is also,
    consequently detrimental to the software's success.

    One of the primary features expected by users of the Wii, and essentially, any
    current generation game system, is online interactivity that is easy to partake
    in. By not providing a solution to the problem expressed herein, Nintendo of
    America, Inc. is disservicing its customers' expectations and damaging its own
    integrity as a producer of enjoyable current generation game entertainment.

    Arguments
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    Nintendo of America, Inc. cannot seriously present that a solution for this
    issue is technically infeasible. Any user of contemporary internet software
    already knows that such functionality is commonplace - even in game systems,
    such as Microsoft's XBox.

    However, it is possible to present that social issues, such as user privacy, and
    protection of underaged children may impede the release of a solution to the
    issue. This petition argues that such claims are also unfounded.

    Contemporary online services have already addressed the issues of privacy and
    child-protection with common tools such as opt-in choices and parental
    controls. Such tools are present in most current social-networking services and
    software, from online forums to Windows XP. That the Wii itself features a
    parental control component to its firmware only serves to accentuate this.

    Furthermore, by not providing its own contained system to link users up,
    Nintendo of America, Inc. is encouraging not only adults, but also underaged
    children, to go online and exchange their Wii codes with strangers on the
    internet. The fact that this will very certainly happen essentially cripples any
    argument that Nintendo may present about protecting children online. Instead of
    providing a more contained and secure system, Nintendo's current Wii code
    exchange implementation requires users to initiate personal contact with others
    to exchange codes.

    Solution
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    This petition calls for Nintendo of America, Inc. to provide a solution to the
    issue above, and provides ideas herein for a possible solution that covers the
    arguments discussed.

    The petition calls for a discovery service for the Wii that will allow users to
    find and connect with each other directly through the Wii console. This may be
    implemented either via peer-to-peer software, or a central database, either of
    which could be delivered to each Wii via a system update.

    The discovery service will allow users to browse a listing of other Wii users
    and choose to connect with them online, therefore enabling connectivity via
    software such as the Mii Channel.

    To protect user privacy, the option to list oneself in the discovery service
    would be turned off by default. Only those users who wish to list themselves
    will be listed via the discovery service. Privacy may be further augmented by
    allowing users to agree to connect with any individual user whenever requested,
    despite already being listed. This option can be strengthened by such
    social-networking tools as peer-review/rating.

    This solution also protects underaged children. The option to "turn on" the
    discovery service, which would be disabled by default, should be protected by
    the parental control component already existent in the Wii system. Therefore,
    parents, when setting up the system for their children, are able to deny
    anything they feel may expose thir children.

    Conclusion
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    It is not technically unfeasible for Nintendo of America, Inc. to resolve the
    issues presented by this petition in a way that also addresses any social
    issues. Furthermore, by doing so, users who would like to and are entitled to
    enjoy the connectivity features promised by Nintendo for the Wii will be able to
    do so.

    By not addressing and resolving the issues expressed by this petition, Nintendo
    of America, Inc. is presenting the message that it is not committed to its
    expressed goal of servicing a wide and varied customer base with its Wii
    console.

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    I wish we all had a unique username that once entered you cant change it and also no one else can take it. Like the PS3 and Xbox online play. Instead we get crappy friend codes. Hopefully Nintendo will let us use our unique username to interact with each other.

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    I think that if someone creates a server game on any online game. You type their Friend Code in to enter it. Like an I.P address yes?

    You make a Profile name. Sorted

    As long as you can play people online why moan?

    And as for adding people most people you add won't care anyways
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    You know, not sure what to think about that petition, but aren't you suppose to provide a link to the petition so people can sign it online? Or is it not an online petition?

    I will say that we know so little about how it's going to be setup, so just wait a bit and see what happens. the Wii is suppose to have a lobby, and friend codes are for adding people SPECIFICALLY that you want to add.
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    isnt tony hawks down hill jam wifi? i saw it in the stores in the us.

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    Ok for the 6th time.

    friend codes are just used to identify a specific machine. for most if not all games you won't need to use friend codes unless you want to connect to a specific person. Kind of like needing a persons IP address.

    And to the Petition speds. Youmight want to wait and see how the games actually do it before whining. Because the multiplayer online connecting is going to be up to the game developer, not nintendo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vagrant
    Ok for the 6th time.

    friend codes are just used to identify a specific machine. for most if not all games you won't need to use friend codes unless you want to connect to a specific person. Kind of like needing a persons IP address.

    And to the Petition speds. Youmight want to wait and see how the games actually do it before whining. Because the multiplayer online connecting is going to be up to the game developer, not nintendo.
    Your infinite wisdom never cease to amaze me vagrant.
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    You should see me play Trivial Pursuit.

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    I think what everyone is trying to get to here is this:


    We all want it to be a lobby system. Like X-box live. Show us a list of active games and let us pick which one we want to play. What we don't want is a system like MarioKart or Metroid Hunters on DS: "Find X number of random people to play with unless otherwise specified with a friends code"


    But don't start making petitions quite yet. Just cool your fires until 2007 when we actually get some online play.

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