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    Quote Originally Posted by WiiZero
    PS3 is actually looking pretty good to me they just aren't getting good games anytime soon
    So a really expensive games console with no good games (coming anytime soon) looks good to you?

    A REALLY EXPENSIVE GAMES CONSOLE.
    WITH NO GOOD GAMES.
    LOOKS GOOD?..

    I typed that out in caps - not to shout - just to demonstrate why this thread is pointless...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrandonMcAuslan
    So a really expensive games console with no good games (coming anytime soon) looks good to you?

    A REALLY EXPENSIVE GAMES CONSOLE.
    WITH NO GOOD GAMES.
    LOOKS GOOD?..

    I typed that out in caps - not to shout - just to demonstrate why this thread is pointless...
    1. its NOT expensive at all. Its actual worth is over $1200. There are only two kinds of people who complain that its expensive, poor people and jobless people. Its price is actually very reasonable.

    2. Its like looking at the latest gaming computer rig, (they run upwards of $1500-6000) and it doesnt have an operating system installed on it. Then saying, it looks good. It makes perfect sense. Apply the same thought to the PS3.

    3. the PS3 at the moment can run Linux OS. Hackers and Modders are playing around with its potential, and if its anything like my PSP that can play movies, music, can run and play nes, snes, gba, sege genis, game gear, nintendo 64, and playstation games to name a few, then a lot of people will love it even more.

    yes the PS3 can look good. But if your only reason for being here is to be a fanboy, then you can get the hell out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistwiiver
    Becasue you have to have AAA games to make that price worth it. Sure the Wii doesn't have the greatest library right now, but they don't need it as badly because the $250 price gives them some slack.

    But if the PS3 gets the games it will do well. Games are what make all the diffference. For me the $500/600 price tag isn't too high, but there has to be a great reason to pay that money. Show me the games, I show you the money.
    I get it now LMAO. Thats what posting while tired gets you LMAO i didn't read it properly. Though I've never used the term 'AAA' Games. Sorry for being an ABSOLUTE IDIOT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiftfallout
    1. its NOT expensive at all. Its actual worth is over $1200. There are only two kinds of people who complain that its expensive, poor people and jobless people. Its price is actually very reasonable.

    2. Its like looking at the latest gaming computer rig, (they run upwards of $1500-6000) and it doesnt have an operating system installed on it. Then saying, it looks good. It makes perfect sense. Apply the same thought to the PS3.

    3. the PS3 at the moment can run Linux OS. Hackers and Modders are playing around with its potential, and if its anything like my PSP that can play movies, music, can run and play nes, snes, gba, sege genis, game gear, nintendo 64, and playstation games to name a few, then a lot of people will love it even more.

    yes the PS3 can look good. But if your only reason for being here is to be a fanboy, then you can get the hell out.
    1. I'm 24 - I have a good high paying job - nice car - nice house - and all of that is complete with bills to pay. Lots of bills. Anyone who thinks 440 is not a lot of money for a games console is either a kid - who doesn't yet know the value of money, or, living with/off their parents - same as kids.

    2. don't know what you are going for here? a gaming rig/PC can do a hell of a lot more than a ps3 - I use my pc for a lot more than games.

    3. So what if hackers can mess about with it? thats not the product? the product is a crummy games machine/cheap blu-ray player, with no good games, that has sold substantially less machines than its competition. The wii can already run NES, SNES, Genesis/Mega Drive, and N64 games.

    Also as for being a fanboy - get f*ckin real. I don't dress up as mario for the weekends - I don't LOVE nintendo. If they make a games console that sucks I will just say so? I don't "support" companies the way people do football teams. I just think PS3 sucks. Ever see me bashing Xbox? No cause I think the 360 is great. Also think the Wii is great (for different reasons)

    - See my previous threads on the use of the word fanboy - and how its reserved for morons with little imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrandonMcAuslan
    1. I'm 24 - I have a good high paying job - nice car - nice house - and all of that is complete with bills to pay. Lots of bills. Anyone who thinks £440 is not a lot of money for a games console is either a kid - who doesn't yet know the value of money, or, living with/off their parents - same as kids.
    Hey im 24 also and 600 dollars wont come close to breaking me. Maybe the economy is a bit different in europe where that much is too much for ya though. Im an actor and make great money, but my non actor friends think that much money isnt much to complain over. Then again, if we want a laptop, we buy a laptop, if we need a new tv, we get a new tv. With a couple days worth of work we can get 2-3 PS3s if we wanted to.

    But im going off topic, the point you keep missing, is that NOT just a gaming system. Its not. 600$/440 euros wont kill a working professional. Its chump change.

    2. don't know what you are going for here? a gaming rig/PC can do a hell of a lot more than a ps3 - I use my pc for a lot more than games.
    I use my pc for a lot too, but your not looking at the analogy. Computers on par with the PS3 go for a lot more than the PS3s going price. The ati video card alone in the PS3 would go for 500-600 $ easily.

    You said that you think people are idiots for saying the system looks good when they dont think it has any good games out at the moment. The analogy i made is concerning a computer with no Operating System in it. The idea is, a system can good look, even if its missing the software that makes it useful. Thus the computer analogy. Get it yet?

    Now that we are on the topic of what a PS3 can do.. if you havent noticed there have been to extremes 2 the gaming world. Its also the divide that has cursed gamers out there.. console vs computer. Slowly consoles are turning into stand alone multimedia devices. Its more accessable and tends to be cheaper than computers themselves. Think of a future where everything becomes a multimedia device with interconnectivity through the "wired" which connects the world together through virtual road ways, and everything is instantanious. The PS3 is merely a step in that direction, it cant do more than a PC, but they are going in that direction. Now not everyone has a PC or can afford the price of an equally powerful system.

    This is where the PS3 becomes good. Its packaged and optimised for specialist roles (games, movies, general multimedia). Now my psp, can be a word processor, a web browser, i can play certain windows programs on it. If a small hand held device can do all this... then its merely the baby child of where Sony is taking their technology. Look at apples new phone coming out, its basically pushing the limits. PS3 will push the limits. The system can still look good even if you dont want to play games with it.

    Its also the cheapest blue-ray player on the market.



    3. So what if hackers can mess about with it? thats not the product? the product is a crummy games machine/cheap blu-ray player, with no good games, that has sold substantially less machines than its competition. The wii can already run NES, SNES, Genesis/Mega Drive, and N64 games.
    The wii runs on 4 year old technology and is extremely limited. Your not getting the point. The product is NOT games. Maybe for the wii due to its limitability, but games are merely software that works on conjuntion with the hardware. The product is what YOU as the user are empowered to do with the technology. If you cant see this, then I dont know what to tell you other than you dont seem to understand the industry very well.

    Also as for being a fanboy - get f*ckin real. I don't dress up as mario for the weekends - I don't LOVE nintendo. If they make a games console that sucks I will just say so? I don't "support" companies the way people do football teams. I just think PS3 sucks. Ever see me bashing Xbox? No cause I think the 360 is great. Also think the Wii is great (for different reasons)

    - See my previous threads on the use of the word fanboy - and how its reserved for morons with little imagination.
    If you read what i said, and not pulling one word and giving it a new context then you would have realized that its completely different than your making it out to be.

    You say all this is pointless.. and thats what im telling you. Why are you here only willing to trash a product and those who are intersted in it while not listening to logic or reason if you are not a fan boy. Whats the point of telling others that they are stupid for finding a powerful system good even if it has no games? Why be an ass about it? Thats how fan boys act. If the glove fits... then its usually true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiftfallout
    There are only two kinds of people who complain that its expensive, poor people and jobless people.
    You just named 3/4 of the world with this one.

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    the ps3 is too much... i mean im going to get one when GT5 comes out but for now theres no point on spending 600 for a console that wont get played dont have HDtv so blu ray is useless...

    and yeah when your mommy and daddy buy everything for ya 600 means dick to ya but when you have rent/house payment, gas elec, water , GAS, food 600 can buy alot more than a gameing machine... yeah im 21 live on my own have 2 kids.... but ill have a PS3 when GT5 comes out anyone have release dates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiftfallout
    1. its NOT expensive at all. Its actual worth is over $1200. There are only two kinds of people who complain that its expensive, poor people and jobless people. Its price is actually very reasonable.

    2. Its like looking at the latest gaming computer rig, (they run upwards of $1500-6000) and it doesnt have an operating system installed on it. Then saying, it looks good. It makes perfect sense. Apply the same thought to the PS3.

    3. the PS3 at the moment can run Linux OS. Hackers and Modders are playing around with its potential, and if its anything like my PSP that can play movies, music, can run and play nes, snes, gba, sege genis, game gear, nintendo 64, and playstation games to name a few, then a lot of people will love it even more.

    yes the PS3 can look good. But if your only reason for being here is to be a fanboy, then you can get the hell out.
    Yay another arrogant poster. So everyone that thinks the price is high is poor? wow that wins the Idiot Comment of 2007 Award.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyGTS
    the ps3 is too much... i mean im going to get one when GT5 comes out but for now theres no point on spending 600 for a console that wont get played dont have HDtv so blu ray is useless...

    and yeah when your mommy and daddy buy everything for ya 600 means dick to ya but when you have rent/house payment, gas elec, water , GAS, food 600 can buy alot more than a gameing machine... yeah im 21 live on my own have 2 kids.... but ill have a PS3 when GT5 comes out anyone have release dates?
    21 and have 2 kids already? well now thats stupid. Sure 600 can buy a lot more, but thats not the argument here. Look, if i say i want a new car but cant afford it. Does that mean its too expensive or that i just cant afford it? is it my fault or their fault? Naturally it would be my fault for not having a high enough income.

    Apply the same concept to the PS3. Its not expensive, its that people are either too cheap or cant afford it.

    Now if people are mixing up its price and its desirability. They are completely seperate. If you dont see anything for the system that makes you want to buy it, dont say its too exensive, say it lacks the games to buy it. Its not too expensive rather, theres no games making you want to buy it. Its really a simple concept some of these people need to learn.

    Yay another arrogant poster. So everyone that thinks the price is high is poor? wow that wins the Idiot Comment of 2007 Award.
    arrogant? more like confident. Everyone who thinks the price is high either cant afford it, or cheap. Thats not saying anyone HAS to buy it, but this argument that 1200 dollars worth of hardware is some how over priced at 600 dollars is idiotic. Kinda like you.

    But hey, whatever you need to say to make your epeen feel bigger is fine with me. lol

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    Basically let the PS3 - Wii - and 360 sales speak for themselves.
    Why is the PS3 lagging in sales?

    The PS3 is too expensive. It is a technological item that is more expensive than both its main two competitors and is therefore falling behind in terms of sales.

    Its not $1,200 of hardware - its approx $1,000 of hardware + manufacturing & distribution costs.

    JeremyGTS is saying the same thing as me. The problem with the PS3 is that its asking too much and not giving enough. And if it can't offer something unique and good soon I can't see the demand increasing.
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