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    Quote Originally Posted by Squall7
    What did you do? Also, I noticed you said you worked in the film industry on another thread. What did you do there too?
    Not as much as with film. Both markets are closely nit, as southern california is full of game studios. I helped teach a game design class at a major uni for a quarter, working along side mechwarrior developers. Helped as a game tester when i was in college moved over to work with a couple game producers who wanted to incorporate modern day cinema into their games, so i talked with their developers on how to do this, as my degree is in film and digital media. Currenly like my name suggest, im working with a certain game franchise which will be made into a movie. Other films I have played a small role in were Castlevania produced by crystal sky, started by creative executive Andrew Hyatt and then passed onto Paul W.S. Anderson. Which hes going to ruin a good film. The original script written my mr. hyatt was much better. Also with crystal sky Tekken, 75 million dollar budget film based off the game franchise, Have been in communications with the author of the RING and his Rival, best known for the parasite eve trilogy. Marvels Avi Arad for his upcoming films and finally been in communications with the guy who owns the rights to the Fallout franchise. Hate or like it, a movie is being made off that.

    Enough about me though, i hope that helped clear up any unbelievablity in my claims. I really dont want to say too much though because too much lnformation on some projects can get me in trouble with my line of work.

    Switching Disks only works if all of the game data can be stored on a single DVD/CD (so all the gameplay mechanics, engine, script etc...). It's only used when the movie files are too big to stick on also. Of course, I think it's still possible to do it, even if it can be considered "undesirable" to do so.
    yep, but more pain than its worth for disc swapping.

    I'm not quite sure I'm following you. Are you saying that developers will eventually and naturally go to the PS3 once they hit the ceiling of the competitors and their limitations? Or that Sony will have a hand in every game because it has the least problems when it comes to power?
    Im saying that those developers who want to make a large and blockbuster style game will look for the medium that allows them the most freedom to do really big projects. Developers will naturally continue to drop games on more than one system, but the games they release will be limited by the medium they are put on and payed on. As time goes on, developers look to out do the other, to make the next biggest and greatest thing. To do that, More advanced GPUs and Storage mediums will be needed.

    Xbox will release another verion of the 360 here soon with a 180 gig hard drive, yet they refuse to put in an HD DvD rom drive. Which means they plan on more games installing on the HD than relying purely on one disc.

    That's not neccessarily true in this gen so far. Some of the games have been downgraded and ported to the Wii. Marvel Ultimate Alliance is an example of this. It's also allowed for an extended lifespan of the PS2, as we see things like Tony Hawks Downhill Jam get ported to that also.
    Well what happens in these cases is that it cost the developers more time to make these changes, which means more money. However, the game itself is limited by the first system it comes out on. If they do a re-release of a game for another system, it means they are tying to keep the game alive and continue the revinue from it, but it also means more devopement time. They dont usually like to do this, but will if they want to keep reapin in the benefits of one title.

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    Whoa?! $75 million for Tekken?! Squaresoft had the highest game movie budget ever, and I'm pretty sure they would have mentioned Tekken is they got even half that amount. Most of Parasite Eve was made in Hawaii, Japan. I heard Fall Out the game is still not being worked on, let alone a movie. Um... Where are you getting this $75 million budget from?

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    i was joking about the old titanic 12'... no need to go crazy.

    and wtf u talking about switching games online? wut game ever did that. you dont need bluray to keep multiplayer on one disk lol. just put all multiplayer data on 1. and again, needing to swap a disk or not wont help br sales unless the buyers are 500pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertking1123
    ...(snip)....ok spock since you like to use illogical so much......(snip).
    Well you got me.. Im spock.

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    look at it in the business terms , Sony our going to lose alot money. No-matter what happens in this console war. Designing games is an exspensive deal in nexgen graphics race , the smaller developers are going to have a hard time competing .This is where Sony's bread & butter sale comes from. Thats how they did so well in the past generation.Sony are not like Nintendo when it comes to inhouse development ,they can't suport a console on its own. Nintendo could and has ,with the N64 and Gamecube . Sony are slowly pricing themselves out of the war. So if you can't attract gamers in mass market to pay 425 for what they claim to be the future of gaming, then you could be looking at the next Sega saturn.

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    also you (not shift) say marvel for the wii is downgraded? you obviously havnt played it. i own it and its 50x faster and more clear then ps2's (gf's bro owns ps2 version)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY_KRaKRocKS
    I know who don't have a Wii- Michael J. Foxx and Muhammad Ali
    This is simply because Wii requires pinpoint control of your hand and arms for some things.
    Hold two pens in one hand and put your arm directly out. If your arm or hand is shaking, don't buy a wii.

    Listen up stupid

    1) Both my brother and I have tremors, and we both can play the Wii fine. My brother tremors are far worse then mine, but its hardly an issue. That was one of the worst post I've ever read online.

    2) The reason the Wii is selling more isn't the price, it help yes, but its not the main reason. Selling console are like medicine. Even if a good medicine tastes bad, you'll take it because it work. If it doesn't work, then why take it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by PtonJalken
    also you say marvel for the wii is downgraded? you obviously havnt played it. i own it and its 50x faster and more clear then ps2's (gf's bro owns ps2 version)
    It is downgraded from the 360 and PS3 version. I own a copy of it for the Wii and if you look on the back of the 360 and PS3 versions (which I think were out before the Wii version - I think), the graphics aren't as good.

    Also, it would explain why the graphics weren't as good as the Wii could do - the build for the PS2 version is probably adapted from the Wii version (or vice versa). This means, despite the power difference between PS2 and Wii, they'd both get roughly the same game, whereas the original higher ended version would be the same on PS3 as is on 360. In effect, there's only 2 core versions of the games (except with slightly different features).


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    Quote Originally Posted by sagema
    Whoa?! $75 million for Tekken?! Squaresoft had the highest game movie budget ever, and I'm pretty sure they would have mentioned Tekken is they got even half that amount. Most of Parasite Eve was made in Hawaii, Japan. I heard Fall Out the game is still not being worked on, let alone a movie. Um... Where are you getting this $75 million budget from?
    I worked in the company thats producing it. 75 million for Tekken. I think the only magazine that has advertised this to the general public is the daily variety which is a well known film magazine. Crystal Sky sold Ghost Rider (horrible movie) over to Sony Studios and let them take over for about 150 million (cant remember the exact number but it was up there).

    Parasite eve was indeed made in japan however the author got shafted. Both him and the author of the ring started at the same time. A popular but very stingey publishing group in japan held a contest for writers to see who can write the best horror story. The two top authors were those guys (sorry cant remember how to spell their names and dont feel like looking it up). The guy that wrote parasite eve was pissed because he found out that the contest also took away his rights for the franchise and was upset that they only made a japanese version of the movie where as RING went over to hollywood as well as japan. I am currently trying to get the rights back from the group that holds onto so we can see an american version of the movie more close to the original playstaion 1 game.

    Fallout is intersting... Bethesday bought the rights to make the single player game from interplay, interplay still retained the rights for a mmorpg since its their baby. The ceo of interplay just recently was flying around the world getting investors to fund the mmorpg. Its going into the pre-production planning stages right now, Bethesda already started the single player developement phase. So two fallout games will be coming out within 3-5 years. The movie will most likely happen inbetween that time.

    Add: a bit of interesting news. The largest video game movie to be made budgetwise will most likely be the Warcraft (WoW) movie. That is if it happens. Im not sure where they are at in this stage of development/or preproduction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squall7
    It is downgraded from the 360 and PS3 version. I own a copy of it for the Wii and if you look on the back of the 360 and PS3 versions (which I think were out before the Wii version - I think), the graphics aren't as good.

    Also, it would explain why the graphics weren't as good as the Wii could do - the build for the PS2 version is probably adapted from the Wii version (or vice versa). This means, despite the power difference between PS2 and Wii, they'd both get roughly the same game, whereas the original higher ended version would be the same on PS3 as is on 360. In effect, there's only 2 core versions of the games (except with slightly different features).
    i getcha.
    sounded like it said wii version was worst then ps2. thx
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