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    Yeah i heard bicycles are outselling jets this month in the USA too.
    But you would expect Bicycles to outsell jets; you wouldn't expect an expensive console to outsell a cheaper one. Then again, if that actually means Game Boy Advances and doesn't mean Nintendo DS's then that stat wouldn't shock me since GBA's were stopped being sold a long time ago...

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    Wow pictures, thanks for that Shift, you just show that internet who is boss. I guess your console warrior sword of +3 flamewar is growing dull.

    Also the ps2 is outselling the ps3, and the ds is outselling the ps3, and the wii is outselling the ps3, and the 360 it outselling the ps3, and the psp is outselling the ps3. Also your analagy kind of fails because sales are important to a console, as more sales = more developers and more developers = more games, whereas it won't hurt the sale of plane tickets if more bicycles are sold.


    Its just funny that a 6 year old handheld of a previous generation of handhelds, is outselling the mighty blu-ray player.
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    Post is there ^^^
    How dare you state a different point of view, you complete fanboy! /sarcasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiftfallout
    lol probably, I am usually involved in drinking a beer or talking so time seems to go by fairly fast. Its not long though.
    Ok. It take my drive a couple of hours to write to DVD. There again, it is quite an old one now...

    It definately shows. The third party devs havent yet quite used the wiimote as well as ninty has. Wiisports is by far my favorite wii game, but they should have put wiiplay with the wii itself because as a stand alone, its a really bad game and wiisports, though fun, is still lacking in options. I remember they said they wanted to use mario characters instead of mii's, i really wish they did.
    True. Though I think a lot of people bought Wiiplay for the extra Wiimote. I kinda agree about the mario characters in Wiisports, though I think it should be optional. Or at least have it so that the Wii pulls out secret characters every once in a while...

    Well from what I know, first the 360 uses 9 gig dvds and if you were to play a pirated game, it has to be able to fit on the dvd, second they actually use the roms within the 360 itself to read and make the images of the games. I remember with the original 360, they booted up a custom interface when turning on the console. Piracy for the 360 is still not easy, but its not non existant either. I will have to read up more on the 360 in that area because I have not really kept up to date on the 360s progression with modders and pirates.
    True, though I do know you can get dual layered (9GB) disks in retail - well special orders at least. Sounds like Microsoft is starting to take piracy seriously.


    If i give you an answer, i know personally i wouldnt be 100% sure about it. So i need to look into the actual blue ray writing process. I am familiar with the basics of blue ray, and have not taken the time to research how it will be used in terms of home use and PCs.
    Fair enough. Just as a matter of interest, is it true that PS3 Blu-Ray drives are 2X speed, and does this effect loading times. I've heard that the first time you put in a PS3 game, it takes quite a while.

    True, pirates are still the minority of gamers. But lets look at it in a different light. Piracy is indirectly partially nintendos fault because they cannot keep up with the demand.
    Interesting, but that wouldn't explain things like NES Roms, and the hacks that come from them. I presume those are more to do with gamers mixing nostalgia with hardcore gaming. The Mario hacks look mad!

    By that i mean, consider this: buying a wii from outside sources is common because it is so hard to find. So you have people who buy wiis and resell them for much much more. I have seen this first hand, and a search on ebay will show users showing off mountains of wiis they have for sale. They cut the normal consumer off from the source and resell higher. In order to get an even better price, quite a few will buy a cheap 20-50 dollar mod chip, install it in all their wiis. Burn the games. And then resell it as a package deal for 300 more than a normal wii on ebay/craigslist. It is easier to find already modded wiis that have been marked up in price because of the mod job.
    True, true. I wonder how much it's happening compared to the people that are going the "official" route (buying games, rather than downloading them)...

    So due to the demand and lack of supply due partially to these resellers looking to make an extra buck, mod chips within the wii are much easier to find. And someone looking for a wii will buy it because its in demand, and they feel they are getting a deal with the free pirated games.
    True, but even then there's got to be some form of trust going on. Paying for something over the internet that's had it's warranty invalidated isn't exactly what I would look for...


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    Nah, when put my ps3 games in, it doesnt take that long at all. Even though it runs at 2x speed, its also taking in a lot more information per rotation. Its not fast but its not slow either. Just feels normal. I believe the ps1 had much longer loading times.

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    [/quote]As long as we understand nintendos primary market is children and has been so for a long time, they cannot win with being the most technologically advanced system. Nintys goal then is just to make something fun and simple. Once we can accept the fun and simple side of nintendo, and not make it out to be more or less than what it really is. Accepting what it can and cannot do, then we can all talk normally.[/quote]

    That wont happen not because people think the Wii is the best system, only because people think the PS3 is a crap system. So i guess sony has to apologize for spending billions to give us something we've been wanting for years at a reasonable price. Lets all send sony letters saying

    "Hey assholes. The next system you make had better not exceed 3 buttons or use anything other then a floppy disk. Thanks to you Nintendo was forced to stop useing cartridges. I hope you now realize people dont want Blu-Ray, dispite it out selling HD-DVD's. A rechargable, replacable, lithiom ion battery? Duracell is just fine for me thank you. If i dont spend at least 100 dollars a month on batteries, your wrong. I hope you get the message and dont make the same mistake with the PS4."

    Hm, sound bout right.

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    The PS3 isn't a reasonable price for a CONSOLE. It's not a PC so it doesn't need that many features, simple as.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griever
    The PS3 isn't a reasonable price for a CONSOLE. It's not a PC so it doesn't need that many features, simple as.
    yeah you could buy a decent pc for less, and he could all the flaming he wants then ^_^
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    I have Linux on mine so, actually yes it is a PC and no you could not get PS3 spec PC's for 600 smacks.

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    If you can't run Microsoft Office on it it isn't a PC. It's a very easy rule of thumb to follow since the whole idea of the PC is to make Office work easier - not to play games or use the internet as these are just additional features.

    Sony should have waited 'til their next console to use Blu-Ray but they didn't and it's made their console too expensive for most people to afford. Out of this and the 360 I would rather have a PS3 simply because of the games which will come out but I know I can't afford one - simple as.

    PS2 and FFXII ftw. xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiftfallout
    Nah, when put my ps3 games in, it doesnt take that long at all. Even though it runs at 2x speed, its also taking in a lot more information per rotation. Its not fast but its not slow either. Just feels normal. I believe the ps1 had much longer loading times.
    Fair enough.

    Heck, loading times don't matter all that much to me, as long as there's something to keep me occupied, whilst loading (e.g. Devil May Cry's gunshots or Mortal Kombat's renders).

    I mean, I am from the days where you had to wait ten minutes to play a Spectrum game, and then there's always the risk of crashing...

    Also, I wonder what role HDD will play in HD. I mean, more and more things are becoming downloadable...

    ...Though not too sure if HD movies are yet... ...Although broadband is at the point where we could probably stream a half decent picture to a HDTV...

    Of course, I do prefer to keep a hard copy, but if that means burning it to some sort of disk (whether it be HD-DVD, Blue Ray or the disks that hold both formats), then I'd be doing just that.


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