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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperH
    Nintendo didn't deliver a superior product. The Wii's hardware fails in comparison to the PS3 -- by a long shot.

    What Nintendo did was capture a large audience. They brought intuitive gameplay and low cost to the mass, in exchange for plethoras of buttons or high price tags. Frankly, I would have preferred the Wii to have been $100 more and render in HD. It's not JUST about gameplay to some of us.

    The Wii just caters to a larger market -- young and old, rich and not-as-rich, and has the nostalgia of Virtual Console to boot. It's simple -- if you market to everyone, you'll sell to everyone.

    Sony's Playstation 3 caters more to the younger, better off crowd. I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't have $600 they can fork out for a Playstation 3. There are plenty who do not have high-definition televisions, either (unfortunately). For those of us who 480i or 480p isn't good enough for (it never was, really), the Playstation 3 provides.
    That REALLY describes a superior product. One that sells and captivates. And I prefer my small screens, cause staring at big screens for hours kills my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperH
    Nintendo didn't deliver a superior product. The Wii's hardware fails in comparison to the PS3 -- by a long shot.

    What Nintendo did was capture a large audience. They brought intuitive gameplay and low cost to the mass, in exchange for plethoras of buttons or high price tags. Frankly, I would have preferred the Wii to have been $100 more and render in HD. It's not JUST about gameplay to some of us.

    The Wii just caters to a larger market -- young and old, rich and not-as-rich, and has the nostalgia of Virtual Console to boot. It's simple -- if you market to everyone, you'll sell to everyone.

    Sony's Playstation 3 caters more to the younger, better off crowd. I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't have $600 they can fork out for a Playstation 3. There are plenty who do not have high-definition televisions, either (unfortunately). For those of us who 480i or 480p isn't good enough for (it never was, really), the Playstation 3 provides.

    you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

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    No he didn't. A superior product is one that delivers what its supposed to do. Nintendo did that because they put together a console that plays games and has all features that millions of people want. You sony supporters can continue to lie to yourself and say, "The Wii sucks no one actually wants it. They just got it because of the price". But thats WRONG. They got it because it has great games, great innovation, great additional features, and the graphics are decent for the standard consumer. Now I'm done arguing about it. IF sony had created a "superior" product it would be selling now cuz people would want it and think it has something unique/special that makes it worth w/e price. However that is NOT the case. They are losing. The people have decided that Nintendo and Microsoft are the winners this time around for a number of reasons the least of which is "how big a hard drive is" or "is it HD?". You guys may have a hard on for new/complex high technology and graphics but that doesn't mean the rest of us do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperH
    The Wii's hardware fails in comparison to the PS3 -- by a long shot.
    you can't fail at something you wern't aiming for in the first place.


    The Wii's hardware is less superior in comparison to the PS3 -- by a long shot.
    this makes more sense, but anyone buying a wii should already know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imae
    this makes more sense, but anyone buying a wii should already know this.
    unfortunately many of them dont, or refuse to believe it. Kind of like when their parents told them there was no santa claus and they insisted he existed and whispered naughty things to them at night.

    they dont realize its not entirely impossible to .. shock.. enjoy more than one system and still be honest about the facts.

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    WTF are you talking about!? Or maybe I should ask who? I KNOW that the Wii has less than stellar graphics when compared to the PS3 & 360. I GET IT. Theres no need to beat a dead horse. The point is that IT DOES NOT MATTER to the MAJORITY of consumers. And 2nd it does NOT make the Wii a less superior product! The Wii is superior overall because it has all th essentials and none of the extra fluff that the PS3 has. In addition it has great games, new, innovative controller, and sound features that everyone has been looking on Nintendo for awhile.

    PS I enjoy both Nintendo and Microsoft so get over yourself. Not to mention I constantly admit that I love the God of War series and Final Fantasy. I'm more than capable of being a fanboy to Nintendo and still an admirer of another system as LONG as it DESERVES it. sony does not deserve my praise or respect cuz its a sh*t company with a sh*tty product that has NOTHING I want on it that would convince me its worth the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiftfallout
    unfortunately many of them dont, or refuse to believe it.
    and many just dont care, wii appeals becuase it's different, it's something new and it has unique games.. not because it has the latest gfx/proccessing chips/dvd playback.
    those that refuse to believe simple facts are few and are perhaps the biggest fanboys of them all, but quite often its a case that they are genuine fans of the way certain games are designed, and the line between design and polygon count gets blurred... or something.

    there's a difference between superior hardware and superior product, what sony is aiming to do with ps3 is that it's hardware will become more in demand over time and thus more superior as a product over time without the architecture of the system itself changing.
    Last edited by imae; 03-24-2007 at 09:58 PM.

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    okay, let's compare two things you have said shift:
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    Actually, your right, lets let consoles destroy themselves. I prefer PC gaming over all your little crap boxes.
    okay, so you like PC gaming. nothing to be ashamed of, but you just said consoles were little crap boxes, then said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiftfallout
    The graphics GPU in the PS3 has a net worth of $500 alone, Blue Ray players are on the market for over $800, Add in the hardrive, The PS3's 3.2 GHz Cell processor by Sony, Toshiba and IBM, Blue tooth...ect the list goes on. You are looking at a system that would normally go for around $1500 minium. I would say, Sony is selling pretty dang cheap.
    that's hippocritical. now, i like you shiftfallout, you tell it like it is and you keep the fanboys in check. but don't contradict yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWELR
    okay, let's compare two things you have said shift:


    okay, so you like PC gaming. nothing to be ashamed of, but you just said consoles were little crap boxes, then said:



    that's hippocritical. now, i like you shiftfallout, you tell it like it is and you keep the fanboys in check. but don't contradict yourself.
    Because you have seen my posts here and in various threads, and so has the guy i was quoting, then I was hoping the sarcasm was clear. Why would i spend so much time going into depth for each system if i thought they really were crap boxes. No, i was just being sarcastic at that poster directly.

    No worries there, nothing has change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiftfallout
    Because you have seen my posts here and in various threads, and so has the guy i was quoting, then I was hoping the sarcasm was clear. Why would i spend so much time going into depth for each system if i thought they really were crap boxes. No, i was just being sarcastic at that poster directly.

    No worries there, nothing has change.
    ya, it really seems that sarcasm is hard to get across through the net. its a lot easier in person. i personally didn't realize you were being sarcastic until i scanned through the entire thread and read another one of your posts. there outta be a sarcasm smilee.
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