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    Quote Originally Posted by sagema
    Gundam was $8 million for it's budget. The average game for the PS3 costs far more than making a game for the Wii. Game developers are barely able to make even on high budget games. Thus more multi platform games. The industry itself now has budgets that exceed Hollywood movies like LOTR. Companies are coming out and saying games like Spider Man 3 have to sell a few million copies just to break even.

    The average game sells around a few hundred thousand copies.
    good point. not even that many ps3's sold :P
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    I think Sony could definatley win with some time and price drop, if not in North America, everywhere else.

    It seems it's suffering from the long time it takes to develop games. It has a very strong first party and part temporary or permanent 3rd party. It also has free online and Home.

    I think Home could really interest casual gamers and the games can interest gamers.
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    To develop a game for the PS3 costs more than twice the amount it does to develop a game for the Wii. Hence the reason why some are allowing their games to go multi-console, so that they can make a profit rather than a loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagel
    I think you're (correcting your mistake there) missing the point altogether. My sarcasm was directed toward the belief that people will buy a ps3 so they can watch casino royale on blu-ray. When for £400+ I could go see it in the cinema 57 times , in far superior quality and surround sound. Or I could just use that money to host a big wii party. In reality the article that was first posted, was clearly an unbias non-sony associated blog , as that company have never made ps2 exclusive games, and whilst the fanboy wii&ps3 probably sat there and thought about how he could try and stir up a flamewar on wiichat, and eventually concluded on that article, I'm sure anyone here could find anything in the media that is highly positive towards nintendo. Truely though, I believe (and i'm sure many high ups in sony also believe) that the ps3 is actually in fact a media player, that just happens to play games.

    So there have that.
    Your sarcasm was based on the idea that one is better off watching in the movie theater than ever buying a PS3. You explain yourself but nothing much changes from what you said earlier. Basically by your own comments you wish to help fan the flame war you think wii&ps3 is trying to start. Your bias is clear. I also believe that the PS3 is a multi-media device that supports many types of media (games are a part of media) and a firmware that supports user made software. So its more of a computer.
    Oh and for your wonderful job at fixing mistakes, it might warm your cold little heart to know it wasnt a mistake. Intentional rather due to the fact i didnt feel like adding a 're. I tend to do it a lot, if it bugs you then im totally fine with it.

    So there you have it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz
    To develop a game for the PS3 costs more than twice the amount it does to develop a game for the Wii. Hence the reason why some are allowing their games to go multi-console, so that they can make a profit rather than a loss.
    Not true. THe developer chooses to spend more on their projects due to the quality of games they can achieve. The publisher gives them that budget. You can easily see games come out for the PS3 that cost just as much as a Wii game and vice versa. The reason you see a lot of Wii games having smaller budgets is because they are much easier to make for the wii. The wii is a limited system with its graphical capabilities, forms of gameplay and storage medium. Its like comparing a TV made film to a feature film, ones going to have a higher budget due to the limitations on each one. The PS3 can do more with its hardware so in that sense the games, if the developer so pleases, can become more expensive due to higher values of production. In games like oblivion, the art team traveled all over the country taking pictures so they can make high rez textures. They also brought in experts who taught the developers how to stimulate natural growth of a planet. You wont see this kind of stuff for mario games. No one is bashing mario, but theres a big difference in the level at which they are produced. Also note that a lot of multi-console games will not be playable on every system. The wii will miss out on quite a few games because of the similarities between the xbox,ps3 and PC. The wii is in a world of its own.

    Quote Originally Posted by sagema
    Gundam was $8 million for it's budget. The average game for the PS3 costs far more than making a game for the Wii. Game developers are barely able to make even on high budget games. Thus more multi platform games. The industry itself now has budgets that exceed Hollywood movies like LOTR. Companies are coming out and saying games like Spider Man 3 have to sell a few million copies just to break even.

    The average game sells around a few hundred thousand copies.
    Gundam was also one of the top selling games in japan. Each game sold at around $70-80 (converted from yen). You have to multiply the number of sales by the game cost, which can be anywhere from 50-80 times the sales in terms of profits. Based off an average price of $60, the gundam game would have to sell 130,000 copies to break even.

    No game yet that I know of has gone over the budget of LOTR. Like movies, there are blockbuster games, B games, C games. The developers intend to release a game that falls under what they classify it as. Blockbuster games meet the requirement by having a larger budget, longer developement time, insane marketing and the plans that it will wow its consumers.
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    i agree with most of it

    not sure where he got the $70 for the xbox live thing though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiftfallout
    Gundam was also one of the top selling games in japan. Each game sold at around $70-80 (converted from yen). You have to multiply the number of sales by the game cost, which can be anywhere from 50-80 times the sales in terms of profits. Based off an average price of $60, the gundam game would have to sell 130,000 copies to break even.
    Lol

    Gundam was a total turd

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    PS3 is cool gizmo GOSH! truth be told, you guys suck. Then again its kinda nintendo's fault. If only they finished that SNES expansion with sony instead of philips. Oh well we owned without them anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by A RAND0M TAC0
    Lol

    Gundam was a total turd
    the japanese seemed to like it. As for the game itself, its purely subjective on who likes it and who does not. Fact still remains its one of the top selling games in japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A RAND0M TAC0
    Lol

    Gundam was a total turd
    I think its based on culture. Japan likes to build robots.

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    People always seem to point at graphics and power. Why should I care about that? VHS was just fine, its the studios who wanted more money that decided that it sucked and produced DVD only movies. Same is going on with HD-DVD and Blu-ray DVD. The studios are deciding the way we should buy. The consumer just wants good entertainment....no matter how it comes.

    As far as PS3 vs Wii.....I really don't care about the graphics power. The thing that sold me on the Wii was the innovative controller. I dont care if people come over, as long as Game Developers continue to produce games that are fun then they will sell well.

    Spectacular graphics will never, and I do mean never, win against pure fun. Fun will always win, and if Sony makes fun games, then they will win. If Nintendo makes fun games, then they will win. Whoever makes the most fun game will win, no contest.

    And BTW, I cant wait for Mario Party 8 and Super Paper Mario.

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