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    Quote Originally Posted by GamerCon
    Samus is a tard. I could probably make a sub section about him.

    Maybe shift is just a really good con man, who knows? As long as he doesnt say anything thats, well, what samus says, hes fine by me.

    Screw you asswipe

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    Your evidence is just SOOO overwhelming:

    "You take a lot of space to say very little.

    1. Nintendo is bad ass

    2. LOL, if SONY cant get its pricing right, then that's their problem. Oops now its yours. - NASA"

    Damn, cant argue with that. I mean, when its been quoted by NASA, shit, you rock.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GamerCon
    Your evidence is just SOOO overwhelming:

    "You take a lot of space to say very little.

    1. Nintendo is bad ass

    2. LOL, if SONY cant get its pricing right, then that's their problem. Oops now its yours. - NASA"

    Damn, cant argue with that. I mean, when its been quoted by NASA, shit, you rock.
    yeah i said that, oh no wait...i didn't.


    Your arguments are like the PS3 - They suck

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    Did i break him? Was sarcasm not in the dee dee dee learning program? Crap.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GamerCon
    Did i break him? Was sarcasm not in the dee dee dee learning program? Crap.
    i wouldnt know i wasn't there dumass.

    deliberately mis-quoting someone isnt sarcasm dumass. its lieing, like when you know you've lost an argument and try desperately to justify your flimsy arguments by falsifying evidence.

    I think the term is PWNXED
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    Shift won this one, im just having fun now.

    Dont get annoyed becuase you paid 600 smacker for a brick
    What kind of freaky ass game store do you go to?


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    hey shift you have source saying that the revolution was supposed to be the best graphically? not busting your balls just wanna read it.

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    How the **** is Sony known for being "Least loyal"?? They have year after year produced the best games the world has seen. What has Nintendo done? They sat on their fat ass's and was like "How can we trick them into giving us money?" What did you get with your Wii? Another ****ing GC. WOW! You sure got the better deal there. Why would i want a console thats improving? Thats retarded, i want a lazy company that dishes out mario games like a dog with diarrhea.
    To answer your earlier crock of $hit

    Oct 31: Sony DRM uses black-hat rootkits
    Mark Russinovich, a security researcher, discovers that Sony has been sneakily installing "rootkit"-based DRM on their customers' computers. Rootkits are black-hat hacker tools used to disguise the workings of their malicious software. Removing Sony's rootkit nukes your Windows installation.

    Nov 3: Sony releases de-rootkit-ifier, lies about risks from rootkits
    Sony announces a "service pack" for its rootkit DRM. It deceptively downplays the risks the rootkit presented. It turns out that the remover doesn't actually work, either.

    Nov 3: Felten on Sony's rootkit-"remover"
    Princeton DRM researcher Ed Felten analyzes Sony's rootkit "remover" and concludes that it's a hunk of junk: "they're almost certainly adding things to the system...they're not disclosing what they're doing."

    Nov 3: Defeat WoW spyware using Sony's rootkit
    Warden, a program used by Blizzard to scour World of Warcraft players' system and report on the contents to the company can be defeated with the Sony rootkit. Blizzard claims that Warden only detects a few programs that facilitate cheating, but researchers have found evidence to the contrary.

    Nov 8: Defend against Sony's rootkit with DRM-ripping software
    AnyDVD, a DVD-ripping program, advertises that it can also inoculate you against the Sony rootkit.

    Nov 9: List of CDs infected with Sony's rootkit DRM
    EFF releases a partial list of CDs believed infected to infected with Sony's rootkit. Buyer beware -- you're better off buying music from someone else.

    Nov 9: Sony's EULA is worse than their rootkit
    EFF attorney Fred von Lohmann analyzes the license agreement that accompanies Sony's rootkit DRM (that's right, a license to listen to an audio CD!). It is unbelievably outrageous, the kind of thing that makes you want to get a torch and a pitchfork and head over to the nearest Sony office.

    Nov 9: Wanna sue the pants off Sony?
    EFF is looking for people who bought rootkit-infected CDs to join a potential lawsuit against Sony

    Nov 10: Sony Music CDs infect Macs, too
    Mac users shouldn't be smug -- Sony's audio CDs also contain an app that patches OS X's kernel with unspecified restriction-software; though Mac users have to take a few more steps before their computers are compromised

    Nov 10: Fantastic screed against the coders who wrote the previous Sony DRM junk
    This isn't the first time Sony's been caught doing crap like this; the last time around a geek wrote an amazing rant excoriating the coders who helped Sony write its anti-customer malware

    Nov 11: Sony will stop shipping infectious CDs -- too little, too late
    Twelve days after being caught using rootkits, Sony announces that it will stop shipping rootkit-infected CDs. No recall of the existing rootkits, though -- and Sony doesn't come close to apologizing. Buying Sony CDs is a great way to screw up your PC, but a lousy way to acquire music.

    Nov 12: Sony's *other* malicious audio CD trojan
    Princeton DRM researcher Alex Halderman reports on the other malicious software found on Sony CDs, a Suncomm product called MediaMax. MediaMax is a vicious little bug, which spies on you and reports on your deeds to the mothership.

    Nov 12: New Sony lockware prevents selling or loaning of games
    Sony patents a piece of software that can prevent you from playing a game that's been inserted into one console on another console; speculation is that this is destined for the PS3. Kiss game rentals, loaning and re-sale goodbye. Also, if your PS3 breaks or is stolen, you might as well toss out all your games, they're useless without it.

    Nov 13: Sony's malware uninstaller leaves your computer vulnerable
    A Finnish researcher discovers that the "uninstaller" for Sony's rootkit leaves a ton of crap behind that hackers can exploit -- he can reboot your computer just by getting you to load a web-page

    Nov 13: Sony's rootkit infringes on software copyrights
    There are strong indications that Sony ripped off a Free Software-based library called the LAME Encoder for its rootkit. The LAME Encoder is licensed under the Lesser GPL (LGPL), which was released for free re-use by public spirited programmers who merely requested that they be acknowledged. In Sony's zeal to protect its copyrights, they had no compunction about clobbering the copyrights of those software authors.

    Other stuff:

    * Sony lied about its rootkit. They said it didn't phone home with information about your deeds. It does. When they were caught in the lie, they said that they didn't pay attention to the information it sent back, so it's OK
    * Microsoft is building a Sony rootkit-remover into its anti-spyware product
    * Lawsuits against Sony are already underway in Italy and the US
    * At least one piece of malicious software that exploits Sony's rootkit has been discovered in the wild


    * Immunize Yourself Against Sony’s Dangerous Uninstaller: Princeton DRM researchers Ed Felten and Alex Halderman explain how to miitgate the security vulnerabilities left behind by Sony's incompetent "uninstaller" program.

    * List of infected CDs: Sony finally lists the 52 titles infected with the XCP rootkit. Note that Sony initially claimed that fewer than half that number were infected. (Thanks, Kurt!)

    * US-CERT: Never Install Audio-CD DRM Software. The Department of Homeland Security's Computer Emergency Readiness Team advises that you never install CD DRM: "Do not install software from sources that you do not expect to contain software, such as an audio CD." (Thanks, Kurt!)

    Now, all the news that's come in since the initial roundup post on Nov 14:

    Nov 14: Sony anti-customer technology roundup and time-line
    Roundup of Sony's misdeeds to Nov 14.

    Nov 14: EFF to Sony: you broke it, you oughta fix it
    EFF publishes an open letter to Sony calling on the company to make amends for its misdeeds -- Sony should disclose the risks of its DRM software, it should give customers uninfected CDs, help anti-spyware companies fix the holes, compensate customers for damage to PCs, and package their CDs will full disclosure of any malware contained within.

    Nov 14: Sony's rootkit uninstaller is *really* dangerous
    Following on the November 13 research about Sony's rootkit "uninstaller" leaving your computer vulnerable to attacks like rebooting it by inserting malicious code in a web-page, Princeton researchers Ed Felten and Alex Halderman announces that they have discovered far more serious problems with the software and warn against installing it at all, promising prompt full disclosure (they publis this the next day, along with some instructions for defending yourself if you've run the uninstaller)

    Nov 15: Sony begins to recall some infected CDs
    Sony announces a limited recall of its infected CDs -- they'll take them back from stores, but not from customers (they announce that they'll swap out customers' CDs later in the day)

    Nov 15: Sony's spyware "remover" creates huge security hole
    Princeton DRM researchers Ed Felten and Alex Haldermen publish detailed analysis of the security vulnerabilities created by the rootkit "uninstaller" Sony that provides. Running this software leaves your machine vulnerable to complete takeover by simply embedding malicious code in a webpage.

    Nov 15: Sony infects more than 500k networks, including military and govt
    Dan Kaminsky publishes research showing that Sony's DRM has infected over 500,000 computer networks including networks belonging to the military and the government.

    Nov 15: Sony disavows lockware patent
    Sony issues a statement promising not to use technology that locks videogames to consoles.

    Nov 15: Latest Sony news: 100% of CDs with rootkits, mainstream condemnation, retailers angry
    Mini-roundup post. Before Sony recanted, they were sending out emails to their customers proudly promising that 100 percent of their CDs would be infected with rootkits by end of 2005. The Globe and Mail's business section denounces Sony. A tipster at a retailer reports that Sony is pressuring the sales channel to downplay the scope of the threat from its rootkit DRM. Sony and other electronics companies get caught jacking up the wholesale price to online stores, so that their retail price will be the same as those in physical stores.

    Nov 15: Sory Electronics: Will Sony make amends for infecting our computers?
    SORY Electronics -- lovely parody of Sony's logo, reading: "SORY IS THE HARDEST WORD." It's the concept behind a site calling on Sony to really make amends for the infecting of its customers' PCs.

    Nov 15: Sony issues non-apology for compromising your PC
    Sony promises to send you a non-DRM CD to replace your DRM CD. Still no word on how to effectively uninstall their rootkit, and the company downplays the scope of the damage -- just what we need, infected users with a false sense of security.

    Nov 16: Katamari/Sony DRM mashup
    Humor break: Joey De Villa creates "Katamari DRM," showing the wonderful videogame transformed into a game where the objective is to overwhelm the planet with rootkit DRM -- he draws on Dan Kaminsky's excellent visualizations of the 500,000+ networks infected with the rootkit.

    Nov 16: Sony waits 3 DAYS to withdraw dangerous "uninstaller" for its rootkit
    Three days after being notified that its rootkit DRM uninstaller leaves computers in a dangerously insecure state, Sony finally stops advising its customers to use it.

    Nov 16: Sony CDs banned in the workplace
    Companies, educational institutions, and government agencies are banning the use of Sony CDs on workplace computers, due to the security risks that arise from the rootkit DRM. Some orgs go so far as banning audio CDs altogether, since there are plenty of malicious bits of anti-security technology in music from many labels.


    Nov 17: Sony still advising public to install rootkits
    18 days after the revelation that Sony's CDs contain dangerous rootkits, Sony still has live web-pages advising its customers to go ahead and install their software (This is still the case as of Nov 22!).

    Nov 17: Schneier: Why didn't anti-virus apps defend us against Sony's rootkit?
    Security researcher Bruce Schneier accuses anti-spyware companies of being soft on Sony because it was released by a giant, sleazy company instead of a small, sleazy company.

    Nov 17: Uninstaller for Sony's other malware screws up your PC
    Some of Sony's music CDs carry a second form of malicious software, a spyware program called Suncomm Mediamax. Princeton researchers Ed Felten and Alex Halderman discover that the uninstaller provided by Suncomm leaves your computer open to complete takeover through simply looking at web-pages with malicious code in them.

    Nov 17: Amazon offers refunds for all Sony rootkit CDs
    Amazon sends an email to everyone who bought a rootkit-infected Sony CD from them and offers a full refund -- now that's how it's done. (On November 21, the US Army/Airforce Exchange Service followed suit).

    Nov 18: I HEART Rootkit tees, list of Mediamax CDs, Mediamax installer to be fixed
    Lovely "I HEART Rootkit" tee shirts for sale. A user discovers a long list of CDs infected with Suncomm's MediaMax spyware. Suncomm vows to update its Mediamax uninstaller, which presently leaves your computer wide open to total take-over simply by looking at web-pages with malicious code on them.

    Nov 19: Sony offers MP3s in replacement for rootkit CDs
    Sony is not only offering to replace infected CDs with CDs that are free from the rootkit DRM (no official word from Sony on whether they'll also be free of the Mediamax spyware) -- they're also offering free MP3s of any music that you bought on an infected CD!

    Nov 20: RIAA prez: Lots of companies secretly install rootkits! It's no biggie!
    The CEO of the RIAA kisses off all the customers who got infected by Sony's rootkit: "How many times that software applications created the same problem? Lots." Uh, really? Lots of companies install rootkits on users' PCs without permission? Apparently this guy doesn't know the difference between "companies" and "criminal organizations"

    Nov 20: Latest news on Sony lawsuits
    A website launches to keep track of news about the lawsuits arising from Sony's use of spyware and rootkits on its music CDs.

    Nov 20: Sony insider: DRM is discredited at Son
    A high-placed tipster at Sony tells me that the execs who green-lighted DRM at Sony are in trouble, and that the label-heads in Sony are really pissed about the rootkit fiasco, with at least one vowing to swear off DRM forever.

    Nov 21: Foxtrot cartoon on Sony's rootkit
    The Foxtrot comic strip nails Sony in today's syndicated strip

    Nov 21: Texas sues Sony over rootkits -- YEE-HAW!
    Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott has brought an anti-spyware lawsuit against Sony over its rootkit DRM. He's looking for $100,000 per violation of Texas's anti-spyware laws, plus costs. Ouch. That's gonna be pretty costly.

    Nov 21: EFF brings class-action against Sony!
    My employer, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (a nonprofit civil liberties group) has brought a class action suit against Sony. We're gonna nail them!

    Nov 21: Microsoft: Trusted Computing sucks!
    A senior Microsoft exec says that computer users should never be deprived of control over their PCs; too bad that Microsoft has built so much of its current business on depriving its customers control over their PCs.

    Nov 21: Why not update Sony's rootkit with a warning message?
    Security researcher Ben Edelman suggests that Sony could reach all its infected users by pushing an update to the rootkit that warns them that they're compromised and gives instructions for uninstalling and getting replacement CDs.

    Nov 21: Sony's Mediamax spyware gets a new uninstaller
    The Suncomm Mediamax spyware on Sony's CDs caused embarrassment when it was revealed that using the uninstaller left your computer vulnerable to total compromise by web-pages with malicious code on them. Now Suncomm has issued a new uninstaller, though heavens knows if it's any better.

    One more thing: remember back in 2002 when it was revealed that you could cause your computer to ignore audio-CD DRM by scribbling on the visible data-sectors on the physical disc? Turns out that a variant on this can also immunize you against Sony's current crop of malicious software.


    that nuff for ya kiddo? bout 1% of the shady stuff Sony has done

    BTW

    heres a link I dont post uncredited bull like you guys love to.

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    So, what your saying is:

    1. rootkit
    2. Its happening on different days
    3. I hope I impressed them =D

    No, not really. Good try though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyGTS
    hey shift you have source saying that the revolution was supposed to be the best graphically? not busting your balls just wanna read it.
    It would take me some time to find the resources I read long ago, if they still are around.

    For now you can read up with http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?...139&page=other

    You can see they clearly had plans for big graphics in a dvd sided package. Of course, didnt happen. Also you can search up the earlier details and dealings between ati/IBM and nintendo. YOu will find there was a shift in plans at one point.

    Google.com just look around. Honestly I am not in the mood to start digging around in the internet looking for articles long past.

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