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    Miyamoto whats wrong with my team huh here is what moves they have and there abilitys.


    Groudon Drought
    Earthquake
    Dragon claw
    Eruption
    solar beam

    Mewtwo Pressure
    Shadow Ball
    Psychic
    Thunder
    Aura shpere

    Ho-oh pressure
    Fly
    Flamethrower
    Psychic
    Solarbeam

    Charizard Blaze
    Flamethrower
    wing attack
    slash
    blast burn

    Vaporeon water absorb
    Surf
    Ice beam
    Acid armor
    Shadow Ball

    Swampert torrent
    Earthquake
    Muddy water
    Hydro Cannon
    Surf

    other than Swampert whats wrong with my team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lou_lox View Post
    Miyamoto whats wrong with my team huh here is what moves they have and there abilitys.
    Groudon Drought
    Earthquake
    Dragon claw
    Eruption
    solar beam
    Mixed sweepeing Groundon? Not bad. Pretty good, that is if you really want to do mixed Sweeper. Ground has access to Fire Punch and Thunderpunch.
    Mewtwo Pressure
    Shadow Ball
    Psychic
    Thunder
    Aura shpere
    Really good, except I would replace thunder with Ice Beam.
    Ho-oh pressure
    Fly
    Flamethrower
    Psychic
    Solarbeam
    Good, considering you send out Groundon first.
    Charizard Blaze
    Flamethrower
    wing attack
    slash
    blast burn
    An odd choice, to use Charizard in the Uber enviremont alongside Ho-oh. You might want to use something else in his place. Plus, he has an odd moveset. Wing Attack is topped by Aerial Ace (as I learned with my Crobat), Slash is a good but odd choice, and Blast Burn has to recharge after use, making it unreliable.
    Vaporeon water absorb
    Surf
    Ice beam
    Acid armor
    Shadow Ball
    Really good. You might want to consider Baton Pass, but other than that I have no more suggestions.
    Swampert torrent
    Earthquake
    Muddy water
    Hydro Cannon
    Surf
    You already know what's wrong with him. Triple Water-type STAB is quite unnecesary.
    other than Swampert whats wrong with my team.
    It could use a little polishing in places, but overall a good team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrannochu View Post
    Yeah and when my team got rated, all the person did was tell me what to get rid of. And as it turns out they were wrong on all things i was told to change exept my Alakazams CM and My Porygon-Zs Thunderbolt. they never said what to get instead

    And my team as of now is:

    Alakazam


    Modest Life Orb

    Psychic
    Focus Blast
    Grass Knot
    Calm Mind ( was told to change to Signal Beam but haven't yet)

    Dragonite


    Adamant Leftovers

    Dragon Claw
    Roost
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake

    Gyarados

    Naughty ( haven't gotten an Adamant one quite yet) Leftovers

    Waterfall
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Ice Fang

    Rhyperior ( thinking of getting rid of but not sure( perhaps Forretres?))

    Adamant ----

    Megahorn
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Avalanche

    Porygon-Z

    Modest ----

    Tri-Attack
    Thunderbolt ( need to change to Ice Beam)
    Dark Pulse
    Nasty Plot


    Need a 6th pokemon too. Any ideas?
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    But what about my 6th member

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    Tyranno. I think you should put a good flying type or a strong grass type as your 6th on your team.
    Espmaster thanks for your sudjestions and I know I only put Swampert because he can give as good as he can get but I was thinking about either Espeon or Meganium in his place because Espeon is really fast and has a lot of sp. atk. and meganium has a lot of def. and sp.def. plus isn't weak. But I don't ike having two of the same thing on a team like mewtwo and espeon, and what you said about who I sent out together I usually send out either mewtwo and Vaporeon or Groudon and Ho-oh because there attacks work well together Groudon can freely use earthquake without having to worry about hurting Ho-oh and Ho-oh can take out usually in one hit any pokemon thst might threaten Groudon. As for Mewtwo and Vaporeon they have a lot of special attack power and can hurt the others weakness and take them out in a single hit as well. And you reminded me of what to change Charizard's moves to arial ace in place of wing attack and even though you have to charge from Blast burn if I have Charizard out with Groudon I can won't have to worry about any one making it through the round that I have to charge on because my Groudon has 340 attack power so one hit of just about anything on anyone other than a select few pokemon they will be taken out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Pop View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tyrannochu View Post
    Yeah and when my team got rated, all the person did was tell me what to get rid of. And as it turns out they were wrong on all things i was told to change exept my Alakazams CM and My Porygon-Zs Thunderbolt. they never said what to get instead

    And my team as of now is:

    Alakazam


    Modest Life Orb

    Psychic
    Focus Blast
    Grass Knot
    Calm Mind ( was told to change to Signal Beam but haven't yet)

    Dragonite


    Adamant Leftovers

    Dragon Claw
    Roost
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake

    Gyarados

    Naughty ( haven't gotten an Adamant one quite yet) Leftovers

    Waterfall
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Ice Fang

    Rhyperior ( thinking of getting rid of but not sure( perhaps Forretres?))

    Adamant ----

    Megahorn
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Avalanche

    Porygon-Z

    Modest ----

    Tri-Attack
    Thunderbolt ( need to change to Ice Beam)
    Dark Pulse
    Nasty Plot


    Need a 6th pokemon too. Any ideas?
    Your team.... almost the same as mine....
    J.... Lol.. Your team is that bad? lmao jk.

    @ Tyrannochu: Why do you have 2 DD's on the same team? Personally, I would remove roost from Dragonite's set an throw in Fire Punch, counters his Ice weakness. And yes, change the CM on Alakazam to Signal Beam... Alakazam isnt bulkyenough to effectively make ue of CM, especially since you have LO on him.

    Also, take Leftovers off Dnight... Not sure why you have it on him, but there are much better items for use, especially on a stat up sweeper like DNight.

    Pick eitherGyarados or Dnight as your stat up sweeper... I dont see much point in both of them trying to fight for the same job.

    Rhyperior... I see him as more useful than Foretress. Much more sturdy, especially since Solid Rock came to his rescue. lol. Through Hammer Arm on him somewhere in there.

    As for Z, its good. Almost the same as my old one. Youcan use either Tbolt or Ice Beam, both will cover the same basic lineup... And through a Salac on him. speedy Z with upped SpAtk from NP and STAB Tri Attack is scary.
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    who should I replace Dnight with and for what ever reason everyone I fight has something on Rhyperior and i cant find a Salac berry or any of the other stat raising berries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espmaster_ View Post
    Oh. Sorry, somehow I remember it being 20 PP. And lol you rated everyone's team besides mine, and all you did was laugh at them.
    So here it is for the third time:
    Pokemon: Salamence
    Item: Yache Berry
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Intimidate
    Moves:
    Dragon Claw
    Earthquake
    Crunch
    Stone Edge

    Crunch on Mence isn't very useful, except for a MixMence set, which this clearly isn't. Yache Berry doesn't really fit on sets, except the DD sweeper, either. It's not a bad idea to drop Crunch for DD. Then you're set.

    Pokemon: Zapdos
    Item: Choice Specs
    Nature: Modest
    Ability: Pressure
    Moves:
    Thunderbolt
    Signal Beam
    Ancientpower
    Heat Wave

    You don't want Signal Beam or Ancient Power since they have limited power and especially coverage, but rather, U-turn. It may not hit hard, but Zapdos can be easy to counter if you choice the wrong move; scouting for counters can really end up in your favor. Not to mention, if you can get HP Ice or HP Grass for either Dragons or Swampert, U-turn will help you learn if you'll want to take a stab at using HP on the switch, next time Zapdos is in.

    If you can't get your hands on a good HP, though, Signal Beam is your last choice, even if it is useless. Ofcourse, if you want to play some serious mind games, you can slap on Thunderwave to fool the opponent into thinking it doesn't have Specs, or Roost if you want to one turn a recover, and switch; however, this is very risky; if they predict this, they can switch in a stat-up sweeper like TTar, DD up, and murder you.


    Pokemon: Regirock
    Item: Leftovers
    Nature: Impish
    Ability: Clear Body
    Moves:
    Hammer Arm
    Earthquake
    Curse
    Rock Slide

    Curse Regirock is not a physical wall to underestimate, but... it's pathetic special defense really lets it down if it doesn't have sandstream to back it up. I don't recommend adding a TTar either, since it defeats the purpose of Blissey's leftovers with Sandstorm's turn damage, and Salamence will be taking massive damage if stealth rock gets out. ... Not to mention you'll kill your own Shedinja. You'll want another set, IMO.

    Pokemon: Blissey
    Item: Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Moves:
    Calm Mind
    Charm
    Softboiled
    Seismic Toss

    Lowering Attack and increasing Sp. Def is a great idea in theory, which is psuedo-employed by other pokes, brilliant even. Props to this moveset; it just might be successful. The only issue I have is that a single Ghost type will ruin this set; make sure you have things to kill Mismagius and Gengar with on your other pokes. Also, I highly recommend Lightscreen instead of Calm Mind; it lasts after a switch, helps the team, and is just as effective as CM, maybe even moreso.

    Pokemon: Vaporeon
    Item: Leftovers
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Water Absorb
    Moves:
    Surf
    Acid Armor
    Wish
    Baton Pass

    I assume you'll be using this Vaporeon to Pass defense boosts to a sweeper/Blissey? Great team synergy. Wish will also be a wonderful move for the team in general; especially Salamence and Zapdos, since they'll be hurting from Stealth Rock. However, you don't want a Timid nature; Vaporeon doesn't need any speed. Give it Calm or Bold for a defense boost.

    Pokemon: Shedinja
    Item: Lum Berry
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Wonder Guard
    Moves:
    X-Scissor
    Sucker Punch
    Will-o-wisp
    Grudge

    Shedinja will die of Stealth Rock, Sandstream, Hail, or some random attack. Definatly don't use it. Not to mention if by some miracle it does survive, it'l probably win the game in some cheap way...


    Quote Originally Posted by tyrannochu View Post
    Yeah and when my team got rated, all the person did was tell me what to get rid of. And as it turns out they were wrong on all things i was told to change exept my Alakazams CM and My Porygon-Zs Thunderbolt. they never said what to get instead

    And my team as of now is:

    Alakazam


    Modest Life Orb

    Psychic
    Focus Blast
    Grass Knot
    Calm Mind ( was told to change to Signal Beam but haven't yet)

    Don't drop Calm Mind for Signal Beam; Alakazam lacks the power to use Life Orb effectively to kill ANYTHING with it. Rather, if you want signal beam, drop focus blast for it. Signal Beam still hits Dark types, while also hitting grass types (namely it's worst nemesis, Celebi); but the main pay off is it's accuracy.

    Fighting's coverage on Rock types is redundant when you have Grass Knot, too. Still, Signal Beam lacks power; and if Tyranitar comes out unscathed, Alakazam is as good as dead without Focus Blast. I wouldn't drop anything for Signal Beam if I were you, but it's completely your choice.


    Dragonite


    Adamant Leftovers

    Dragon Claw
    Roost
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake

    A bulky DD sweeper has some advantages; I'm suprised Storm can't see it. EV'd correctly, you're almost sure to get up 2 DD's, and recover off the damage; if they don't have any ice attacks, anyways. There's absolutely nothing to change here.

    Gyarados

    Naughty ( haven't gotten an Adamant one quite yet) Leftovers

    Waterfall
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Ice Fang

    Another A-ok DD sweeper. The only issue is that Gyarados and Dragonite share a Rock weakness; a Tyranitar might decimate your Dragonite, and come back later to haunt your Gyarados. Maybe even the other way around.

    Ofcourse, an interesting strategy is bringing in Gyara on a TTar, and by intimidating it, even if it does kill Gyara, you'll have a weakened TTar that D-nite can set up on. -1 TTar, unless it has a choice band (in which case if it isn't using Stone Edge, you'll be fine), probably can't 2HKO your defensive Dragonite, meaning you could pull off 2 DDs, and OHKO it with Earthquake. If they have no other counter to DD Dragonite, they'l definatly be dead. Then, ofcourse, go on a sweep and hopefully win. It's a risky strategy that may never happen, but thought I'd mention it.


    Rhyperior ( thinking of getting rid of but not sure( perhaps Forretres?))

    Adamant ----

    Megahorn
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Avalanche

    The perfect Choice Band set up. Rhyperior isn't really... good, though. Solid Rock still doesn't let it survive too many Surfs or Grass Knots. If you want a wall, Forretress isn't a bad idea, actually. Especially since Stealth Rock immensely helps DD sweeps by Gyara and D-nite, and Forretress can set it down. However, if you'd bother with a steel type that SRs, you'd probably want a Lead Metagross. For details, see this link.

    http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/metagross


    Porygon-Z

    Modest ----

    Tri-Attack
    Thunderbolt ( need to change to Ice Beam)
    Dark Pulse
    Nasty Plot

    On a NP Porygon-Z, Thunderbolt and Ice Beam, one or the other, is a bit redundant. Without a good Hidden Power Fighting, Z is nearly useless as a good sweeper. Not to mention the omnipresent sweepers in the form of TTar, Scizor, Lucario, and others just ruin his sweeper. You'll rarely encounter a good chance to sweep someone with this. I'd say drop Z for a better poke. And especially since you've already got two stat-up sweepers in the form of Gyara and D-nite. He won't be helping you at all. You can replace him with virtually anything; support, bulky, tank, wall, etc. Just not a stat-up sweeper.

    Need a 6th pokemon too. Any ideas?
    Quote Originally Posted by lou_lox View Post
    Miyamoto whats wrong with my team huh here is what moves they have and there abilitys.


    Groudon Drought
    Earthquake
    Dragon claw
    Eruption
    solar beam

    Stone Edge is very useful; pairs nicely with ground moves (Earthquake). Fire Punch also gets STAB in the sun, which could make it even better than Stone Edge; the only issue is if a Kyogre or Palkia switches in, it'l literally do next to no damage.

    Solar Beam is useless, as the only thing you'll use it on is Kyogre, which switches the weather as it changes; that means you'll take two turns to fire a HALF power attack. Eruption is also a special move, it'l do little to no damage; and is especially useless on something as slow as Groudon. Replace these moves with things mentioned above.


    Mewtwo Pressure
    Shadow Ball
    Psychic
    Thunder
    Aura shpere

    Thunder has half accuracy in the Sun, or somewhere around there. Drop it for Flamethrower immediatly. Rather than have Psychic, give it Ice Beam to drop the many dragons in ubers, or Grass Knot to fell both enemy Groudon, and especially Kyogre; the pokemon that ruins half your team.

    Ho-oh pressure
    Fly
    Flamethrower
    Psychic
    Solarbeam

    What a terrible moveset... Fly is useless, drop it. Flamethrower is a special attack; Ho-Oh's regular attack is much higher. Psychic and Solarbeam have terrible coverage, and have the same vote. Try a combination of the moves Sacred Fire, Earthquake, Punishment, Return, Recover, Substitue, etc.

    Charizard Blaze
    Flamethrower
    wing attack
    slash
    blast burn

    Slash is both weak and has no coverage, Wing Attack is in the same vote. Blast Burn is a useless move, since during the recharge turn, you'd do atleast 1.5 more damage with flamethrower total over two turns. I can't give you recomendations unless you tell me what you want; a Mixed, Physical, or Special Charizard.

    Vaporeon water absorb
    Surf
    Ice beam
    Acid armor
    Shadow Ball

    Water types on a sunny day team... ? No, just no.

    Swampert torrent
    Earthquake
    Muddy water
    Hydro Cannon
    Surf

    You already know to get rid of Swampert, so yeah. Remember, no water types on a Sunny Day team. :P

    other than Swampert whats wrong with my team.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Storm View Post
    @ Tyrannochu: Why do you have 2 DD's on the same team? Personally, I would remove roost from Dragonite's set an throw in Fire Punch, counters his Ice weakness. Actually, it doesn't. There are virtually no Ice types that threaten D-nite with STAB Ice Moves; bar Mamoswine and Weavile, which instantly kill him with Ice Shard anyways. As explained above, Roost is very helpful for a bulky D-nite, and helps PP stall/get in more DDs.

    And yes, change the CM on Alakazam to Signal Beam... Alakazam isnt bulkyenough to effectively make ue of CM, especially since you have LO on him.

    Unfortunatly, Life Orb alone isn't enough to make Alakazam a potent sweeper; his fraility, and lack of super effective coverage leaves him at either Support, or all-out power. He needs Calm Mind to sweep effectively, and yes, he also needs LO with it.

    Also, take Leftovers off Dnight... Not sure why you have it on him, but there are much better items for use, especially on a stat up sweeper like DNight.

    Roost and Leftovers, plus D-nites good defenses actually make a nice bulky sweeper. When you go with Roost, Leftovers is DEFINATLY the item of choice. Ice and Rock attacks will never OHKO anymore (even with STAB, unless it's Choiced), so you can PP stall with Roost and Leftovers recovery.

    Pick eitherGyarados or Dnight as your stat up sweeper... I dont see much point in both of them trying to fight for the same job.

    Having a back-up sweeper is always a good idea. I admit, having two DD sweepers might not be smart, but it's better than having only 1 sweeper. I can half agree with you here, Storm.

    Rhyperior... I see him as more useful than Foretress. Much more sturdy, especially since Solid Rock came to his rescue. lol. Through Hammer Arm on him somewhere in there.

    ... Definatly not. XD Rhyperior's much less sturdy, actually. Forretress has only one weakness, better typing, and a much better defensive moveset; not to mention he can survive special attacks (if they aren't fire). Solid Rock only takes off about a 4th of the effectiveness of the attack; 4x effective attacks, especially STAB, sitll ruin him.

    As for Z, its good. Almost the same as my old one. Youcan use either Tbolt or Ice Beam, both will cover the same basic lineup... And through a Salac on him. speedy Z with upped SpAtk from NP and STAB Tri Attack is scary.

    Salac is a very risky strategy without substitute, and is very gimmicky. When it does work, and has HP Fighting, it's incredibly scary. But since it doesn't half the time, you're much better off using something else, sweeper or not really.
    Still working on that team...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrannochu View Post
    who should I replace Dnight with and for what ever reason everyone I fight has something on Rhyperior and i cant find a Salac berry or any of the other stat raising berries
    I dunno, what do you want to replace Dragonite with?
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