What's your pokemon team?

[WuddlePook]

I have switched my team up a little.
Giratina
Empoleon
Machamp
Gliscor
Roserade
Likilikky

By including Giratina, your officially bumped into the ubers tier. Which means your swimming with the big sharks, more specifically Garchomp, Mewtwo, Palkia, Kyogre, Groudon, etc. That basically means your going to have a hard time if that's what you intend to bring to the table. Nothings really stopping a Kyogre from spamming Water Spout/Hydro Pump aside from Giratina or Empoleon, the latter who you can't really use until you know what item it has (Choice Scarf/Specs) as it gets dented (quite hard) with Thunder. Same applies to Mewtwo, who will just have a lovely day pretty much smacking almost everything on your team supereffective with just Ice Beam and Aura Sphere.

I would personally just say toss out the Giratina, but then again your probably just playing for fun, in which case have fun.

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[Fox]

Rrrr, was looking through Smogon's new sets and was kinda surprised to see Flygon bumped into OU...
The only use I'd ever have for him is an annoying CB U-Turner.
Also, where is the BL tier!? (And when are we getting an NU tier dammit?)

[WuddlePook]

Unless I'm mistaken, the OU tier and BL tier are pretty much the same thing. The name of OU, as it implies, is based on the usage of Pokemon. The need of a BL tier is really unnecessary as it's still composed of top tier Pokemon.

But I wouldn't be surprised if the NU tier takes forever. The UU tier will still take 8 months... most likely a year and a half + with all the various testing. And even from there, they would then need to retest for NU, which could take another 4/6+ months. To be honest, I'm somewhat talking out of my ass since I really don't know how testing tiers works, but I know it won't happen anytime soon.

[Strype McClaine]

Thank you wuddle my man.

And yea fox, flygon got into OU, since he is a watered down chompy chomp.
BL is never officaly a teir, its more of a oddity, but yes, it is still my favorites

[Fox]

It was a justification used to link UO to UU.
PZ in UUs would never happen without BL and as for the NU thing, that tier is needed. Swellow and Sunflora do not belong in the same tier...EVER!
Flygon belongs in BL
Ambipom belongs in BL (UU!? C'mon...)
Kingdra belongs in BL (But as high as it gets in BL)
etc etc...
This is a mockery of class and a prudent fail. Battle rules (including tier info) are getting shaky. I CAN FEEL IT!
No.

[WuddlePook]

It was a justification used to link UO to UU.
PZ in UUs would never happen without BL and as for the NU thing, that tier is needed. Swellow and Sunflora do not belong in the same tier...EVER!
Flygon belongs in BL
Ambipom belongs in BL (UU!? C'mon...)
Kingdra belongs in BL (But as high as it gets in BL)
etc etc...
This is a mockery of class and a prudent fail. Battle rules (including tier info) are getting shaky. I CAN FEEL IT!
No.

Sunflora has every right to be in the same tier as Swellow given it can hold it's own weight for it's purpose.

Anyways, stronger contenders in UU will balance each other out. Ambipom staying in UU will prevent x from being overpowered. Just as Kingdra being UU will prevent y from being overpowered. Unless they truly are broken in UU, than they should be bumped up.

But there really shouldn't be a BL tier, as it's not even a tier. BL, along with OU is just a banlist of UU. Just like Ubers is a banlist to OU.

[Strype McClaine]

Somehow, I think we already danced this dance before....

Also...why is "Class Structure" and Tier structure running through my mind as the same thing...dear god, its french literature with Pokemon.....
les misrables + gallade =

[Bowserizer]

Hey Fox, out of curiosity, how has chaining been treating you lately?

[Shadow*91]

he posts those in the shiny thread.


whats a good moveset for a Blissey wall and a Zapdos wall?

[Splash_King]

Good old, fat ass Blissey.. God I hate her. :P

Either way, here's a moveset taken by memory - I'm not a Blissey user, but it's what I remember.

Blissey @ leftover(lol duh), Natural Cure
Softboiled
Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
Thunderwave/Stealth rock(
Seismic Toss

Ya, classic and annoying moveset for the Oprah wannabe. Ice Beam or T-bolt is for the respective targets, dragons or Gyarados. Thunderwave is simply for paralysis support, which Blissey does excellently - especially with Garchomp gone from OU. Seismic toss is there for standard damage, and helps beat up things in combination with Softboiled. Using a nuetral or worse, not very effective T-bolt or Ice Beam certainly doesn't measure up to a Seismic toss.

That's a really old moveset though, and has lost some popularity I believe. Old standard though. There are many new versions of a Blissey, such as the diverse attacker(to hammer both dragons and Gyara)or the odd but effective wishing Blissey. If you just want a standard special wall, that's the route to go though.

As for Zapdos, depends on what you want, physical or special tank.