I actually like your set Strype. Ill go with the Waterfall, Fire Punch, Dragon Claw, Dragon Dance
I'd like to add a little to this wuddle and foxy....
I only like aqua tail IF you go
Aqua Tail -or- Waterfall / Fire Punch / Dragon Claw -or- Outrage....
It covers similar to having EQ and other approaches.....
If you take waterfall you CAN have a bit of a flinch move too...
Any tree can drop a cherubi, i'll drop a freakin lunatone
This is a team I'm considering. It's not made yet, but it's a draft of what I'm considering:
Infernape - Lead
Naive - Focus Sash
64 Attack / 196 Speed / 200 Special Attack
LeadApe. Fake Out diminishes Focus Sashers, allowing the KO with Close Combat or Fire Blast. The team seems as if Stealth Rock in general will help out extremely - which is the point of the set. Set up Stealth Rocks, and proceed to go down in glory. If he doesn't get KO'd off the bat, excessive Fake Outs and a Will-O-Wisp immunity surely helps out a lot.
Dragonite - Sweeper
Rash - Life Orb
112 Attack / 196 Speed / 200 Special Attack
Mix Dragonite. Only issue is that it's quite slow in general, so it's going to need a lot of help from the rest of the team. Shaymin can support with Aromatherapy in the event that it gets paralyzed, burned, etc. But ultimately it's paired with Jirachi to optimize maximum efficiency being able to retreat to it in the event that I absolutely need to.
Jirachi - Support
Careful - Light Clay
252 HP / 100 Def / 156 Sp. Defense
Dual Screen offers much support that Dragonite will need, as it's meant to be the key to the entire team. With Dragonites bulk, Dual Screening will help it even farther, as well as Wish support.
Shaymin - Support
Bold - Leftovers
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Speed
My cleric in a sense. HP Fire just so that I won't get walled in my random grass types like Roserade instead of Rest. Doesn't mind the Dual Screen support from Jirachi at all, and Leech Seed gives it to healing it needs, which it can get from Wish Passing with Jirachi.
Normally had Meganium in this spot, but I realized that Shaymin can do what Meganium does, but with better stats. So why not?
Tentacruel - Tank/Spinner
Careful - Shuca Berry
[Don't remember what it is, but somewhere along the lines of 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Sp. Defense ]
Absorbs the Toxic Spikes just in case. It's overall my answer to fire types. Although Toxic Spikes > Ice Beam would be nice, I lack any other defense to Dragon types other than Weavile, and it would be advantageous to run three attacks over two (I don't count Rapid Spin). HP Electric deals with Gyarados who think they can just Dragon Dance in front of me, being promptly met with it. Rapid Spin since it's meant to be spinning Rocks away, which would otherwise hinder Dragonite/Weavile/Infernape (Assuming Infernape doesn't get KO'd early game). Shuca Berry has been such a nice item in the past, and because I'm using it, Leech Seed/Wish should help a lot.
Weavile - Sweeper
Jolly - Life Orb
252 Attack / 252 Speed / 40HP
Revenge Killer/Sweeper. I lack any essential Speed, as most of my team is bulky and hard hitting. Deals with Dragon types, etc. I absolutely love using Taunt on Weavile. It stops a lot of Pokemon easily.
Team focuses on bulk and a lot on a Dragonite sweep. Since I lack any Toxic / Will-O-Wisp / Thunder Wave, Leech Seed somewhat fills in that missing gap in a way. The use of Dual Screen is to ensure my team lasts, more particular Dragonite.
Few issues I have is leading Infernape. I can't really tell until I try it of course, but I'm skeptical on it's uses. I'm truly just considering using Tentacruel as my lead since it's worked just about every other time. and replacing LeadApe with a more Physical or Mixed set. That or dropping it for a Double Status Gallade since my team needs some status infliction of it's own.
Anyways go ahead and comment. Keep in mind I haven't used this team yet, it's all in theory. But it seems like it could work.
Also, please don't recommend something idiotic like Hyper Beam on Dragonite or whatever ._.
Last edited by WuddlePook; 03-15-2009 at 03:23 PM.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
I have pokerus and i dont really see the difference in EXP/LV. up with more stats. Theyre basically the same. Help anyone?
@Wuddle: I LOVE how you're still keeping some of your old team (Tentacruel/Weavile)
The Infernape is pretty unique. Fake Out is the last thing I'm expecting. SR the second last but I gotta wonder how you'll function after your pseudo-suicide lead is gone voiding your team of fire (looks @ Dnite)
On Dnite's speed issue a agility pass or tailwinding Suicune could help.
@Killa- PKRS multiplies how many EVs your poke gets after killing a wild/trainers' poke.
Last edited by Fox; 03-15-2009 at 03:48 PM.
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No comments on your team just yet, Wuddle. Soon, but not yet. [/lazy]
Nono, I already explained EVs to someone, I don't feel like doing the talking. Linkage instead.
Heres my team:
Umbreon @ Leftovers (Supporter)
Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs (Special Sweeper)
Blissey @ Leftovers (Special Wall)
Metagross @ Occa Berry (Lead/Stealth Rocker/Physical Sweeper)
Starmie @ Choice Specs (Special Sweeper)
Heracross @ Choice Band (Physical Sweeper)
Cool pplz: wiiwouldlike2play, packman, wario2ooo, zachp18, battles, cyanrussel, cede
^This was so long ago; I wonder if these individuals are still active here.